I was recently asked if I’d be willing to do a lecture on whether the Gospels are anti-Semitic. I’ve dealt with the issue on the blog before, but thought it might be useful to return to a particularly interesting feature of the Gospels that can contribute to an answer.
I should say at the outset that I do not think that the Gospel writers, or anyone else in their time, was “anti-Semitic.” The idea and reality of anti-Semitism are modern, and are based on modern sense of “race” as these were developed by the anthropologists of the 19th century. The idea that there was a Semitic “race” has been used for all sorts of hateful purposes in the modern period. As just one example, throughout the Middle Ages – before the modern period — and on into the nineteenth century, “Jews” were understood to be people who subscribed to and followed the Jewish religion – but not that they had racial characteristics. There were indeed persecutions of Jews, since the conversion of the Roman Empire in the fourth century. For Jews to escape persecution, they needed to stop being Jews and convert to become Christians. It was that way up through the Enlightenment. But with the development of race theories it came to be thought that Jews were a different race from others, that being a Jew was, literally, in a person’s blood. That is why during Nazi anti-Semitism, resulting in the Holocaust, it simply didn’t matter if a Jew converted, say, to become Lutheran or Roman Catholic. S/he was still a “Jew” by race and so needed to be exterminated. This is obviously even more insidious than the anti-Judaism that existed in earlier centuries, when being Jewish was a matter of having the wrong religion. Now it was being the wrong kind of human, a problem that could not be changed, no way and no how.
In the ancient world there was opposition to Jews, and Jews throughout the Roman Empire were sometimes mocked and slandered (and attacked). But it was either because they had the wrong religion or, more commonly, because as a people they kept to strange customs (cutting the foreskin off their boys’ penises, not working one day a week, refusing to eat ham or shrimp, etc.). But it is important to stress that all kinds of foreigners were mocked and slandered by Roman authors, not just Jews. The Ethiopians or Egyptians or Indians were no better, just different.
So, too, the New Testament. I’ve been talking in my recent posts about the passion narratives. It is interesting (again, this is simply one slice of the pie) that as time goes on (when you arrange the Gospels chronologically), Pontius Pilate is increasingly portrayed as innocent for condemning Jesus to death. Historically, Jesus’ execution was almost certainly Pilate’s decision, from beginning to end (for reasons I’ll lay out in a later post, in response to yet another recent question). Even if Jewish authorities handed Jesus over to Pilate, he, as governor, is the one who decided what to do with him, without help from the local authorities who, as a rule, he appears not to have been particularly inclined to assuage (despite what some NT scholars often say….).
In the earliest account, Mark, written about 40 years after the event itself, Pilate is shown cooperating with the Jews and together, more or less, they decide that Jesus has to die. It is interesting that in Luke’s Gospel, Pilate is forthright in not wanting to execute Jesus. In fact, he declares Jesus innocent of all charges, on three occasions, and tries to fob him off on the Jewish King Herod for trial, and finally has his hand forced by the Jewish leaders, and so orders Jesus to be crucified. But it’s not what he wants.
This is even clearer in Matthew’s Gospel, where Pilate declares Jesus innocent and washes his hands (this is only in Matthew), declaring that he is innocent of Jesus’ blood. And the Jewish crowd (all the crowd, not just the leaders) cry out those infamous words, “His blood be upon us and our children” (Matt 27:25). Here the Jewish people accept the responsibility for Jesus’ death, and agree to pass on the guilt to their descendants.
In some ways the final canonical Gospel, John, some 15 years later, is even more graphic. Here again, as in Luke, Pilate declares Jesus innocent on three occasions. But in an extended dramatic retelling of the scene, his hand is forced by the Jewish leaders to condemn Jesus to death. He does so, and then hands him over “to them” (the Jewish authorities!!) to be crucified. They are the ones then who do the deed.
As time goes on, Pilate becomes more and more innocent. In the Gospel of Peter the Jewish responsibility for Jesus’ death, and their guilt for causing it, is heightened. Even later there are the Gospels known as the Pilate Gospels (I have new introductions and translations of all of these in my recent book, co-authored/edited with my colleague Zlatko Plese, The Apocryphal Gospels), where Pilate is portrayed as even MORE unwilling to have Jesus’ executed. In some traditions Pilate actually converts to become a Christian. In later Ethiopic tradition, Pilate becomes canonized as a Christian saint.
Pilate? A Christian saint? Completely innocent of Jesus’ death? Why would the tradition move in that direction? For a clear and obvious reason: if Pilate (and the Roman authorities) was innocent in the death of Jesus, the son of God, who was guilty? It was those hard-headed and wicked Jews! Both in order to show that Jesus (and his followers) were not guilty before the Roman state, and in order to blame the hated enemies the Jews, the stories of Jesus’ death were altered over time. This is a not-so-subtle result of the rising anti-Judaism in early Christianity, which resulted in such horrible things once the empire converted to the new religion, and took its earlier prejudices (against Jews) and started acting out on them (in vicious anti-Jewish legislation and mob activity).
Dear Bart,
What do you make of the curious claim made by Aristides of Athens “But [Jesus] himself was pierced by the Jews”? https://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/aristides-kay.html ch2.
Whilst clearly partisan, it doesn’t seem that Aristides has a particular axe to grind against Jewish people. He spends more ink on disparaging the Barbarians, and the Greeks and is especially critical of the Egyptians – in comparison, the criticisms he has for the Jews are quite mild, yet he repeats the error of attributing the execution of Jesus to them.
By then it’s a common tradition that JEsus was killed by the Jews. Check out Melito of Sardis! (I.e., Aristides doesn’t need to have an axe to grind; it’s just how Xns were often talking about Jesus’ death)
Is Matthew 27:25 (“His blood be upon us and our children”) in all manuscripts of Matthew, especially the earliest manuscripts of Matthew? Might it have been a scribal addition? Is there evidence that any anti-Jewish passages were scribal additions?
Yup, it’s there in all the mss. There’s nothing to suggest a later scribe added it. But there are other anti-Jewish scribal alterations of the NT. I may post on that!disabledupes{0b95474fb9b890297a3c7f5644b88046}disabledupes
Dr Ehrman,
Do you think the gospel writers were turning away from Jews or trying to get into the good graces of the Romans?
More the former but some of the latter, in my view.
If I were to purchase one, which should it be?
The Apocryphal Gospels: Texts and Translations (this is the one your link goes to)
or
The Other Gospels: Accounts of Jesus from Outside the New Testament
If you are interested in seeing the original languages (Greek, Latin, and Coptic) as well as an English translation, the former; if not, the latter (same translations and more user-friendly introductions)
It would seem then that in general the answer to the question is yes? Or is that an over-simplification?
Yes and yes. 🙂
Yes,the Gospels gratuitously and libellously demonise and condemn all the Jews,allthe way to my own children.
The Matthew passage where he claims the Jews took responsibility- may his blood be on our heads- is a perverse alteration of the common-still current- Biblical expression “may his blood be on ” his” head”.Not on ” our ” heads.On ” his” head,on the head of the guilty one.It’s one of the reasons I feel Matthew may have been a Jew.One had to know such information from within.
Pilate was a beast,but exonerating him and Rome was politically correct,as the Romans were the conversion targets.
True,the high priest,Caiaphas,wanted Jesus gone for a very serious reason:
as in John 11:50,Caiaphas wisely concluded that it was preferable that one person dies than the entire nation.As we know,every time the Jews rebelled against the occupiers the results were catastrophic-except for the Maccabee revolt- literally destroying the nation and murdering and exiling hundreds of thousands of Jews.
The Jews were prohibited from enacting the death penalty.Had they been allowed, they would have stoned Jesus.That is, if they had found him blasphemous. They had the decency of not blaming Jesus unnecessarily for a religious reason.There is no Gospel unanimous accord about Jesus being a blasphemer.Had they stoned Jesus,Christianity’s most powerful symbol would have been a fish.
Please pardon my intrusion her Gisele, I pretty much agree with all you are saying that the Jews are gettiing the bum rap and nobody wants to talk about the Christian slaughter of Jews in the first 4 centuries. I’m intruding here to ask Bart a question based on something you brought up in this comment.
Bart… Gisele”s comment about stoning triggered a thought. If the Jews were not allowed to stone someone to death, then what about John 8:1-11? It that passage believed to be a late insertion? Or is it possible that the author of John was not a jew and totally unknowlegable about 1st century Judea. Having done a little research it seems the majority of scholars (liberals) believe it is a late insertion, but textualist seem to believe it authentic. There are notable names on the Authentic list including Bruce Metzger. Bruce was your mentor, so how did he reconcile such? It would be a stretch to think a public stoning would go unnoticed by the Roman authority. thus hard to believe that the Jews would stone someone despite the authorities. So did Bruce think the author was not a Jew but rather a gentile?
Yes, to both. It was a later insertion and it was almost certainly not written by a Jewish Christian. Metzger and I talked about it. He just had the sense that this is the kind of thing Jesus would do, but he didn’t have any real argument for it. My sense is that the story conformed so much with is views of Jesus, and that he had heard it connected with Jesus since his childhood, that he simply thought it made sense that it was historcial even though it wasn’t originally in the text. The historical *possibility* of it probably does call into question whether it happened, but my sense more broadly is that you have to make a VERY strong case for a story about Jesus that is first attested in a single anonymous source well over a century after his death, in order to convince anyone who doesn’t have a horse in the race but simply wants to know.
Not sure that comparison works. Wikipedia indicates 1 Thessalonians 2:13-16 may be a later addition.
Yes, some people have argued that, but mainly because they don’t know how to make sense of it. My view is that there need to be much better reasons than that and that the passage absolutely is original to Paul. But, well, it ain’t the Gospels and that’s what I”ve been talking about….
The Jews couldn’t accept an unacceptable dogma.This drove to vindictive fury other powerful claimers to the truth,such as Luther and Mohammad.The Jews were living testimony of the original faith of Jesus.These other faiths stood discredited,an intolerable situation.As these other faiths themselves turned the Jews’ lives into a living hell,they claimed the Jews’ misery was proof of God’s displeasure!
Scapegoating the Jews with a charge of deicide,a monstrous senseless accusation, is interestingly analysed in “the Sacred Executioner” by Hyam Maccobi.
Even as the Gospels don’t say the Jews killed Jesus,Christians constructed that leap from Gospel passages describing Jews desiring Jesus’ death.I sometimes spot such canard in this very blog.
It’s inexplicable that,if large believing crowds followed Jesus,becoming a danger to the establishment,only the infamous (bribed?)accusing rabble would be present during Jesus’ process before Pilate.
It has always bothered me that no one remembers the thousands of Jews-and other peoples-crucified by Rome,all of whom suffered the same agonising death as Jesus.It also astonishes me that Jews weren’t forgiven by Christians,in spite of Christian tenets of forgiveness and love for the sinner.
The Jews had a role to play in Christianity’s birth,salvation and resurrection.How is “they rejected their own messiah” valid? Weren’t they selected by God for such purposes?
erudite.
As well: Lutheranism, Anti-Judaism, and Bach’s St. John Passion: With an Annotated Literal Translation of the Libretto (Oxford, 1998)
That is, if you’re into Bach.
(!) (Do you happen to know who Gisele is? I guess there’d be no reason to. But look her up)
Had no idea. Ah. Gisèle Ben-Dor. Nope. Never heard of her. I was, long ago, a music major, dabbled in conducting even, but recognized my limitations.
I’ve been woefully ignorant of well-known contemporary musicians–even opera conductors–for many years except for the those in the very upper echelon. I’m stuck-in-the-head with Georg Solti, Murray Perahia, Vladimir Ashkenazy, etc.
Lemme guess: She’s into Bach (the one and true god). And she knows what Bach did with Matthew 27:25 in his Matthew Passion, as well as with “Wir habben ein Gesetz,” from the SJP. Terrific music. Requires compartmentalization and how.
All kinds of people cohabit on this website. Bravo.
Thanks for the cue.
Wooow ! So I am not the only one from Uruguay in this blog ….
Wikipedia says that the Jews are an ethno-religious group rather than just a religion. Isn’t that why Paul could say that the Jews could follow their own purely ethnic practices (Torah laws) even if they became Christians but that these were not incumbent upon anyone for religious reasons.
And I would say that yes, the gospels are clearly antisemitic. Bart appears to be right that there was a biological, race element in the original meaning of antisemitism but today I think it simply means anti-Jewish for whatever reason.
Yes, Paul agreed that Jews could (probably should, for the most part) keep their own religious practices, but could still follow Jesus, while gentiles who followed Jesus were not to change their cultural identity to do so (as if being Jewish would give them a leg up with God)
Dr. Ehrman, above, you mention Mark, the earliest account. If I may, I have an off topic question about the sower in chapter four. You’ve written about the subject before but I don’t believe you commented on this. Who is the sower?
It’s the one who preaches the word — whoever proclaims teh truth of God.
Why do you think Judaism never fluorished as a religion ? Being the second oldest,behind Hinduism, I am somewhat surprised at it’s lack of or no growth,having the smalles increases year over year,for being some three thousand years old.
I’d say it has flourished in the sense that it’s been around for roughly forever! But it hasn’t *grown* the way Christianity did in large part because Jews traditionally have had no or very little interest in having anyone else convert to Judaism. They are the people of God; others are not. That’s perfectly fine. THe Law is for them, not for others — unless someone is eager to join. But Judaism has never been an evangelistic religion.
Bart..
What about the fact that the greatest spread of Christianity was though Kingdoms, and the conquering and assimilation of kingdoms? Becoming the official religion of Rome assimilated all Romans into Christianity whether they wanted to or not. New conquest of kingdoms by Rome then forced assimilated of all conquered to Christianity. Breakup of Roman Empire led to mutilple Christian Kingdoms which then each conquered new kingdoms forcing the assimilation of the people into Christianity. Historically Christianity was not grown from the choice of individuals, but by the forced assimilation of those who conquered. All of the Americas are Christian by forced assimilation not by faith. What we see now is the decline of a faith no longer growing through forced assimilation into the religion.
Judism on the other hand is grown through faith not through force. Islam is the branch of Judism grown by forced assimilation same as Christianity.
I don’t think military conquest in the end had much to do with the spread of Christianity. You may want to see my discussion in Triumph of Christianity. The conquest of America and modern colonialization as a whole is a very different (and even more disturbing) thing.
Jesus doesn’t make a great case for a Messiah IMO. Leave your families, live in poverty, suffer for others etc. We would be less than convinced if someone told us these things and claimed to be our Messiah. You’d need a crystal ball to see what would become of Jesus and Xnty. As far as the Jews were concerned, they could have dealt with Jesus simply by ignoring him or by expelling him from the community. Crucifixion seems OTT for what was some poor, itinerant, crazy man talking nonsense.
I’m still not clear about whether Jesus’ crime was sedition or blasphemy. If Judas did indeed spill the beans (tell the Romans that Jesus was proclaiming to be King Of The Jews) then IMO this would get the Romans attention, but once again, crucifixion seems OTT – they could have just warned him or scared the life out of him to get him to stop. My guess is that the Romans saw Jesus as some kind of genuine threat, that he really was attracting crowds and stirring up trouble, hence the crucifixion. Not sure what role the Jews had, but minor to zero would be my guess. My 2 cents.
But for the Romans crucifixion was no big deal. They’d have no trouble killing a poor crazy man who ran around claiming to be “king of the Jews”. Not because he was a threat, but simply because they weren’t going to put up with that sort of thing from ANYONE, period. An example.
The irony with any argument about who is to blame is that these same Gospels infer that Jesus’ death was pre-ordained, necessary, and good.
Judas, Pilate, the Jewish crowd, and the Roman soldiers should be honoured for the role that destiny chose for them in this Passion Play.
The modern world would be very different without the advent of Christianity: we may still be ruled by the Romans!
The Roman Empire would have collapsed eventually, even without Christianity.
It sounds like you’re saying that the Gospels were anti-Jewish but not anti-semitic? But surely the Gospels contributed to later anti-semitism, used to support it. However, it might be worth pointing out that there may have been a significant Jewish-Christian church, but it was eventually overwhelmed by the Gentile Christian church.
You can’t have anti-SEMITISM until you have a concept of Semites as some kind of race — a view that didn’t develop until modern race theories, principally in the 19th century. That’s why anti-Jewish pogroms of the Middle Ages were VERY different from the Holocaust. In the Middle Ages, Jews could convert to be Christians and avoid persecution (in most cases); in the Holocaust it didn’t matter at all what your religion was. You were Semite by birth, not belief, and Semites were naturally inferior. And so Jews who were practicing Roman Catholics were sent to the camps along with the orthodox.
On looking up the definition of Anti-Semitism I saw that there are a number of classifications. There is ethnic Antisemitism, cultural, economic, political, and also religious Antisemitism. Religion is the biggest motivator for those holding AntiSemitic views according to the survey which I saw. So unless I’m mistaken, it seems that the views and claims in the New Testament can be classified as religious Antisemitism. It seems mainly to purvey Matthew who throughout the gospel calls the Jews Israel but when they reject him in the end, they are just called Jews. He hints to the Jews being replaced in the story with the faithful centurion. John is much clearer in this view that the Jews were to be replaced for rejecting Christ and unlike the other gospels, just calls them Jews. I would like to know if you ever write about this topic in any of your books
The idea of anti-Semitism requires the idea of Semitism; in antiquity there wasn’t such a thing as “Semites.” That is a modern category invented by anthropologists, mainly in the 19th century, who were trying to understand teh various human “races.” Calling something “religious anti-semitism” is a bit of a contradiction in terms, though the *idea* behind what you’re saying would be right: ancient Christian had *religous* objections to Jews, not objections due to their “semitic race” (the way, say, the Nazis did)
You say that you can’t be truly antisemitic unless there is a Jewish ethnicity. I read a book you recommended: Neil Asher Silberman, Israel Finkelstein – The Bible Unearthed. In this book the authors say there actually was a group within the ‘Sea Peoples’ which came to the land of Canaan around the beginning of the twelfth century BCE within which the very early beginnings of what became Judaism in later centuries developed. Of course with what amounts to several major diasporas, it would be unlikely that there is anything remotely approaching a ‘pure ethnicity’ in more modern times and so the strength of monotheistic adherence and strict discipline as to ritual morphed this ancient ethnicity into more of a cultural and religious phenomena. Yet there still must have been the identification of Jewishness as an ethnicity in antiquity: wasn’t there? The amplification of this within the gospels certainly must have added to the largely outdated idea that Judaism was some sort of anti Christ pure separate ethnicity based religion and was inherently evil. That almost makes the idea that the gospels were truly not anti Semitic kind of a distinction without a difference doesn’t it?
Yes, ethnicity was indeed a big deal in antiquity. But the idea that you were characterized as a certain kind of human being because of the “race” you inherited from your parents is modern. (E.g., the inherent superiority of the Aryan race). Anti-semitism is opposition to Jews as racially inferior; it’s in their blood.
“The idea and reality of anti-Semitism are modern, and are based on modern sense of “race” as these were developed by the anthropologists of the 19th century.”
Aren’t you forgetting “Limpieza de Sangre”?
https://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/display/document/obo-9780195399301/obo-9780195399301-0101.xml
https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/limpieza-de-sangre
https://www.britannica.com/topic/converso
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1007647
Thanks. Good point. I’m not an expert, but I thought that was one of the fore-runners of the 19th century developments of race theories, which is what most people today have in mind when they talk about “race”. Am I wrong about that? I may well be! (Even so, it’s still not a view held by the ancients; I think it starts at the end of the 15th c?)disabledupes{fda85ed6847a07755d95322cd23461b6}disabledupes
I have a question on everyone’s favorite theologian, Didymus the Blind. In “Forgery and Counterforgery”, you mention Didymus directly suggests 2 Peter was forged. I recently read that someone online dug up “The New Testament Canon of Didymus the Blind” where you say that somebody else wrote the Latin commentary where Didymus (?) says 2 Peter was forged, based on Didymus’s other writings that seemed to treat 2 Peter as canonical, to kind of pit you against yourself. So… what does 2023 Bart think about what 2012 Bart and 1983 Bart wrote on the topic? Did Didymus write both and changed his mind over time, or do you stand by the 1983 article and just thought that even pseudo-Didymus was still worth citing as an ancient authority, or did Didymus think 2 Peter was both forged and canonical? Or something else?
Ha! I didn’t remember that I had to reread the article just now. I don’t even have a copy! Had to get it online fromm y library. I make a pretty convincing argument back then in 1983 that the commentary was not written by Didymus (this was a term paper I wrote in my first semester in grad school!) I have a vague recollection of some scholars arguing that he simply changed his mind, like Athanasius did on the Shepherd of Hermas; but if the commentary isn’t by him at *all* then it can’t be used as evidence. What I would need to do is seem when the commentary is today thought to have been written (I haven’t thought about it in literally 40 years!); if it’s from roughly the same time as Didymus — surely it is? — then it still accomplishes the task of showing that *some* highly educated Xn author still was considering it a forgery, and that would be enough for my case. But I need to look into it.
Thanks for the in-depth reply! Maybe your graduate school work on Didymus would be an idea for a niche blog post some day…
It was a real page-turner!
Steve Campbell, author of Historical Accuracy
I’ve said Jesus repudiates Yom Kippur and Leviticus 17: 10.
Paul Wallis, author of three books Escaping from, The Scars of and Echoes of Eden and has videos on “The 5th Kind” YouTube channel (800K subscribers) also finds Jesus not endorsing Judaism 100%.
Paul Wallis:
Sometimes Jesus repudiates Moses and The Torah.
Jesus says, “In the past you’ve heard this, but I say this.”
“Moses said this, I say this.”
Jesus is not endorsing [all of] the Mosaic teachings. He repudiates [some of] them.
In Luke and Matthew, Jesus asks,
Which of you fathers, when asked by your children for food/bread would give them snakes?
Jesus is actually referencing Numbers 21, 5-6:
and spoke against God and against Moses: “Why have you led us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? There is no bread or water, and we detest this wretched food!”
So the LORD sent venomous snakes [not manna, here] among the people, and many of the Israelites were bitten and died.
So, Jesus is distancing himself from Torah, from that vision of Yahweh.
= = =
Jesus replaces Yom Kippur, mentions consuming body and blood, criticizes Numbers 21, turns over tables, and calls Pharisees evil brood of vipers.
Yes or no?
Sorry — I didn’t see your comment when you first wrote it. I don’t know what you’re asking. Do you mean the historical Jesus? If so, then to your questions I’d say: no, no, no, yes, and we don’t know.
Bart D.E.
Do you mean the historical Jesus?
If so, then to your questions I’d say:
1 no Jesus does not replace Yom Kippur
2 no Jesus does not mention consuming body and blood
3 no Jesus did not speak against God, Moses, and Torah
4 yes Jesus does turn over tables and
5 we don’t know if Jesus called Pharisees evil brood of vipers.
Steefen
1 Matthew 26: 28
This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
2 Every Last Supper speaks of consuming body and blood and Gospel of John goes beyond metaphor
3 If you are saying Matt 7:10 and Lk 11:11 is not a reference to Numbers 21: 6, I disagree with u, u disagree with me, we agree to disagree–and of course Christian concordences wouldn’t want Jesus to criticize Numbers 21: 6, but Jesus should have been more careful by saying something like, but I’m not criticizing the Torah at Num. 21: 6.
5 if you are saying we don’t know if Jesus called Pharisees evil brood of vipers at Matthew 12: 34, how did you come to cast doubt on the Woe sayings of Jesus?
And Stephen, Paul, James, the brother of John, and Peter got in trouble with Jewish authorities because of Jesus.
Oh, sorry — I thought you were asking about the historical Jesus, not the Gospel accounts of Jesus.
Jesus inspired Stephen who held positions that got him stoned/killed.
Jesus inspired Paul who held positions that got him run out of Judaea to Rome to escape being killed.
In Acts, James the brother of John was put to death and Peter was thrown in jail.
Yes, something about Jesus is anti-Jewish
This chapter of Jesus’ life is most confusing to me. My take on historical verisimilitude is that Pilate crucified Jesus for the sake of Rome’s interests, full stop. This was consistent with Pilate’s past actions using capital punishment to manage the region under his command. What doesn’t make sense to me is the account we’re given of Pilate’s ambivalence. Pilate reportedly says he finds “no fault” in Jesus, yet has him scourged anyway. Or likewise, the implication that PIlate somehow feared a Jewish revolution if he didn’t crucify Jesus.
I also wonder if Pilate’s court allowed witnesses (ie, Jesus’ disciples to record Pilate’s words).
Sorry — I didn’t see your comment when you first wrote it. But I bery much doubt if Pilate would have bothered with witnesses. He just saw Jesus as a trouble maker and rabble rouser so ordered him crucified.
One thing that puzzles me in Josephus’s Testamonium Flavianum is this passage: “Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men among us, had [Jesus] condemned to the cross. . . .” (Ant. 18.64). It seems to me that this is authentic Josephus, since a later interpolation would have had Josephus blame the Jews as a whole. On the other hand, Josephus wrote this around 85-90 CE, when some of the gospels were in circulation, so he may have used them as his source without thinking too much about it – his focus, after all, was on Pilate, not Jesus.
Your thoughts?
I think that part’s authentic too, and a good bit of the rest.
Even when I know that “Your thoughts?” refers to Bart’s thoughts I will express my opinion:
Josephus Testimonium failed in answer the most important question to me:
Why was Jesus crucified?
“at the suggestion of the principal men among us” does not say so much about why.
In relation to James’ death Josephus explains that he along with some companions were condemned “as breakers of the law”.
About John the Baptist he explicitly says that “Herod feared that [John’s] strong influence over the people might carry to a revolt”.
But not a word about why Jesus himself ended up crucified.
I have no doubt at all that in Antiquities 18.3.3 there really was a reference to Jesus ( in fact I think that all Antiquities 18.3 2-5 is about Jesus and Jewish-Chrsitian relationships) but it was completely modified , for instance the passage “He won over many Jews and MANY OF THE GREEKS” seems anachronistic to me and as far as I know Bart also do not think there were “many of the greeks” among Jesus followers.
The reason Josephus didn’t answer your question is because he wasn’t interested in it. The only reason he brought up Jesus in the first place was to use him as one more example of Pilate’s cruelty and arbitrariness; if you look at the TF passage in its context, you’ll see that.
The Jesus Movement (the original followers and disciples of Jesus) had almost total failure in winning over other Jews, one main reason why they turned to the Greeks. By the time Josephus wrote Antiquities (c. 85-90 CE), this was 20 years after Jerusalem had been destroyed, and with it the HQ of the Jesus Movement. After that, Gentiles (Greeks) made up the majority of the new movement.
However, it MAY be anachronistic for Antiquities to call them “Christians.” There is scholarly disagreement (naturally!) as to when it began to be clear to everyone that Judaism and Christianity were separate religions. I postulate a terminus ante quem of 96 CE, when Emperor Nerva exempted ethnic Jews who believed in Jesus from paying the fiscus judaicus. But that just gives us a ballpark final date.
So Ant. 18.3 was not about Jewish-Christian relationships.
I will start from the end.
“So Ant. 18.3 was not about Jewish-Christian relationships.”
It’s not easy to show it in a post so I will write a serie of articles in the Platinum about how Antiquities 18.3 4 and the first part of 18.3. 5 are clearly linked and how the last part of 18.3.5 about the banished of Jews from Rome is the real key to understand it all , then we will explore Suetonius famous “Iudaeos impulsore Chresto assidue tumultuantis Roma expulit”. So it would be clear that “The reason [Josephus] brought up Jesus in the first place was NOT to use him as one more example of Pilate’s cruelty and arbitrariness” , all 18.3 2-5 is a literary unit comprising the life of Jesus (18.3.3), how Jesus and other rebels like him were responsible for the destruction of the Temple (18.3.4 “He had the temple of Isis demolished”), Paul’s collection for the poor (18.3.5 a “persuaded Fulvia, a woman of great dignity .., to send purple and gold to the temple in Jerusalem..”) and finally the Jewish/Chrsitian riots in Rome that led to the expulsion(18.3.5 b ) .
I think this is are very hard question regarding the use of the gospels as basis of anti-Jewish sentiment throughout the ages even up to today.
Simply, I believe the authors were anti-Jewish and they blamed the Jews for the killing of Jesus.
Once Christianity became dominantly gentile, the gospels became ant-Semitic. I think today, they are anti-Semitic. They were not originally, but they evolved that way over time.
Are you giving the lecture? I hope so. It’s an important subject.
I’ve given it before, but not recently.
“ Historically, Jesus’ execution was almost certainly Pilate’s decision”
Absolutely !
Tacitus in Annals 15.44 reports :
“auctor nominis eius Christus Tibero imperitante per procuratorem Pontium Pilatum supplicio adfectus erat”
(Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus)
Not a mention of Jew involvement in Jesus’s death.
The one who WAS REALLY KILLED as a result of a decision by the “ sanhedrim of judges ” was Jesus’s brother James. He and some of his companions were “delivered to be stoned” under “an accusation against them as breakers of the law,” as reported by Jospehus in Antiquities 20.9.1. But this could be accomplished as Josephus explained because “ Festus [the former procurator] was … dead, and Albinus [the successor ] was but upon the road” and then “Ananus[the high priest] .. thought he had now a proper opportunity”.
It is not hard to imagine that James’s killing helped the early christians to figure out a story to show the Jews and not the Romans as the culprits of Jesus’ crucifixion !
“In the earliest account, Mark..Pilate is shown cooperating with the Jews and together, more or less, they decide that Jesus has to die.”
I think it is “less” than “more” …
In Mark’s Gospel, Pilate DOES NOT CONSIDER Jesus a criminal, when the crowd “stirred up” by the priests shouted “Crucify him!” he asks in astonishment:
“WHY ? WHAT EVIL HAS HE DONE? (Mark 15: 13-14)
About the crime supposedly committed by him (Mark 15: 26) he clearly thinks that is baseless : “the man YOU CALL the king of the Jews” (Mark 15: 12)
Pilate “perceived that it was OUT OF ENVY that the chief priests had DELIVERED HIM UP” (Mark 15:10) but it was “WISHING TO SATISFY THE CROWD [that he] released for them Barabbas, and having scourged Jesus, he DELIVERED HIM to be crucified.” (Mark 15: 15)
So Pilates is depicted as somebody that just delivered Jesus as soon as was delivered to him not because he thought was guilty of any crime but just to SATISFY THE CROWD, he was the idle executor of what the Jews asked.
I’m currently reading ‘Against the Jews’ by John Chrysostom.
I would better post this question under another, more relevant post but it’s just occurred to me:
If Paul’s ministry and writing predate the gospels, to what extent did his ministry shape the narrative found in the gospels?
I imagine that if Paul’s theology was widely known, it would be important to address it in one’s gospel—whether clarifying agreement or disagreement.
It’s very hard to say. The closest connects are with Mark’s Gospel. Matthew seems to be arguing against Pauline views on the law. Luke oddly shows little knowledge of the surviving letters of Paul we have, and lots of what he says about him contradicats what Paul himself says, at least in the details. My sense is that there were lots of early Christian teachers who were influential, and Paul seems to us like The Guy in part because his letters are the ones that survive. At the time? Hard to say….
Thanks. That’s a good point. Now you’ve got me wondering what sort of evidence, if any, could establish the extent of Paul’s celebrity in his lifetime.
For example, we know he was at least influential enough among some Christians that it was worthwhile to forge letters in his name. However, how confident can we be that any of these forgeries were composed during Paul’s lifetime? Even granting the possibility that some forgery *was* written in his lifetime, with what confidence can we know the size and influence of the audience that the forgery targeted?
And this is in addition to the simple possibility that evidence of other, more influential contemporary Christian figures is lost, a casualty of survivorship bias.
I think I’ll content myself with your conclusion: it really is hard to say.
The Deutero-Paulines are usually dated to about a generation after him; and you’re right, they would certainly show that he had a following, but they wouldn’t show how *large* it was. Yup, I wish we knew….
It’s sad that these things began as religious bigotry to reinforce the need to drop the teachings of the OT, and then became racial fodder.
Modern European antisemitism has its roots in biblical and early Christian antijudaism;
ironically, so does Islamic antisemitism.
Hi, Prof. Ehrman. Is Matthew 27:25 historical? This narrative strikes me as extremely suspect. What are the best arguments for its a-historicity?
“His blood be upon us and our children.” No, this is almost certainly nothing said at the time. There are lots of reasons for it. One is that Pilate would not have been having a special trial for Jesus (treating him differently from anyone else) with crowds there, asking them their view of things. Another is that the statement coincides with Matthew’s anti-Jewish views throughout the Gospel where he, and other Gospel writers, want to blame “the Jews” for Jesus’ death. You can see this anti-Jewish portrayal at the trial get stressed increasingly when you read the Gospel accounts in chronological order: mark, matthew, luke, john, peter — it’s remarkable how Pilate become more and more innocent and the Jews more more guilty. That shows the development of Xn views rather than historicity.