Some people who claim that Jesus did not even exist argue that there never was a town of Nazareth. So hey, how could he be from there? It didn’t exist and he didn’t either. It’s all a myth.
Really. They base this claim on a book written by a fellow named Rene Salm.
I was asked about Salm’s book a couple of weeks ago, and remembered I had posted on the issue, and Salm’s book, in 2012 (!). Here’s the (current) question and my (previous) answer.
QUESTION:
Rene Salm’s 2008 book “The Myth of Nazareth: The Invented Town of Jesus (Scholar’s Edition)” makes an archaeological argument that Nazareth was not settled until after the First Jewish War, c. 70CE. It goes into great detail and appears to be quite scholarly, but I don’t know what to make of it.
Bart, are you aware of this book or its author?
ANSWER
When I dealt with Salm’s book in 2012, it was because he presented a paper at the Society of Biblical Literature meeting and I thought it was very odd indeed. Here’s what I said.
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Several people have sent me private emails asking why René Salm was put on the program at the Society of Biblical Literature meeting, given the fact that he is not a scholar and has no credentials in the field. For those of you who don’t know, Salm has written a book claiming that Nazareth did not exist in the first century, so that Jesus couldn’t be there. He argues this in part because he doesn’t think Jesus existed and so wants to discredit the Gospel stories by saying the Christian authors made the whole thing up.
Several scholars (well, everyone who mentioned it to me) were outraged that Salm was allowed to be on the program. This meeting is of a learned society and is to be for scholars with established expertise. It is not to be a venue for people without qualifications to spout their wild theories. Salm claims that those who oppose him have a theological or religious bias against his views, but this simply is not true. EVERYONE who is an expert opposes his views – Jewish, Christian, agnostic, or other. There is not a single archaeologist of ancient Israel that gives him the least credit. That doesn’t make him wrong. But it does mean that if he wants to argue that every real scholar is in error, he should get some credentials first.
In any event, I thought it might be worthwhile to reprint here what I say about Salm’s book in my book Did Jesus Exist? Apologies for those who have read this already. I have removed the footnotes here, but you can find them in the original.
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The most recent critic to dispute the existence of Nazareth is René Salm, who has devoted an entire book to the question, called The Myth of Nazareth. Salm sees this issue as highly significant and relevant to the question of the historicity of Jesus: “Upon that determination [i.e., the existence of Nazareth] depends a great deal, perhaps even the entire edifice of Christendom.”
Salm’s basic argument is that Nazareth did exist in more ancient times and through the Bronze Age. But then there was a hiatus. It ceased to exist and did not exist in Jesus’ day. Based on archaeological evidence, especially the tombs found in the area, Salm claims that the town came to be re-inhabited sometime between the two Jewish revolts (i.e., between 70 CE and 132 CE), as Jews who resettled following the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans relocated in northern climes.
Salm himself is not an archaeologist: he is not trained in the highly technical field of archaeology and gives no indication that he has even ever been on an archaeological dig. He certainly never has worked at the site of Nazareth. Still, he bases almost his entire case on archaeological reports about the town of Nazareth. In particular he is impressed by the fact that the kind of rock-cut tombs that have been uncovered there – called kokh tombs, otherwise known as locula tombs – were not in use in Galilee the middle of the first century and thus do not date to the days of Jesus. And so the town did not exist then.
This is a highly problematic claim, to start with. It is hard to understand why tombs in Nazareth that can be dated to the days after Jesus indicate that there was no town there during the days of Jesus. That is to say, just because later habitation can be established in Nazareth, how does that show that the town was not inhabited earlier? Moreover, Salm fails to stress one of the most important points about this special kind of rock-cut tombs: they were expensive to make, and only the most wealthy of families could afford them. There is nothing in any of our records to suggest that Nazareth had any wealthy families in the days of Jesus. And so no one in town would have been able to purchase a kokh tomb. So what does the fact that none were found from the days of Jesus indicate? Precisely nothing. The tombs that poor people used in Palestine were shallow graves, not built into rock, like kokh tombs. These poor-person graves almost never survive for archaeologists to find.
I should also point out that these kokh tombs from later times were discovered on the hillside of the traditional site of Nazareth. Salm, however, claims that the hillside would have been uninhabitable in Jesus’ day, so that, in his opinion, the village that eventually came into existence (in the years after 70 CE) would have been located on the valley floor, less than a kilometer away. He also points out that archaeologists have never dug at that site.
This view creates insurmountable problems for his thesis. For one thing there is the simple question of logic. If archaeologists have not dug where Salm thinks the village was located, what is his basis for saying that it did not exist in the days of Jesus? This is a major flaw: using forceful rhetoric, almost to the point of indiscretion, Salm insists that anyone who thinks that Nazareth exists has to argue “against the available material evidence.” But what material evidence can there be, if the site where the evidence would exist has never been excavated? And what evidence, exactly, is being argued against, if none has been turned up?
There is an even bigger problem however. There are numerous compelling pieces of archaeological evidence that in fact Nazareth did exist in Jesus’ day, and that like other villages and towns in that part of Galilee, it was built on the hillside, near where the later rock-cut kokh tombs were built. For one thing, archaeologists have excavated a farm connected with the village, and it dates to the time of Jesus. Salm disputes the finding of the archaeologists who did the excavation (it needs to be remembered, he himself is not an archaeologist but is simply basing his views on what the real archaeologists – all of whom disagree with him — have to say). For one thing, when archaeologist Yardena Alexandre indicated that 165 coins were found in this excavation, she specified in the report that some of them were late, from the fourteenth or fifteenth centuries. This suits Salm’s purposes just fine. But as it turns out, there were among the coins some that date to the Hellenistic, Hasmonean, and early Roman period, that is, the days of Jesus. Salm objected that this was not in Alexandre’s report, but Alexandre has verbally confirmed that in fact it is the case: there were coins in the collection that date to the time prior to the Jewish uprising.
I WILL MAKE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON SALM’S BOOK IN MY NEXT POST. [/mepr-show]
1. When you are dating the gospels from the time of Jesus’s death, why can’t you add another 30 years for the events of Jesus’s birth?
2. The reason for Jesus’s arrest and execution was that he broke the Sabbath laws and the blasphemy laws, either of which was clearly punishable by death. [[Book of Exodus, Ch. 31, v. 15.]. Pontius Pilate would not have found him guilty because Pontius Pilate was not Jewish. So, to him, Jesus’s working on the Sabbath was no crime. But to a Jew it was. Is this not true?
3. Since, as you say, the writers of the Gospels were not eyewitnesses, and the accounts of Jesus’s birth are only in two of the four gospels, and, as you wrote in Misquoting Jesus, “…eventually the persecutions became ‘official’ as Roman administrators intervened to arrest Christians and try to force them to return to the old ways of paganism.”, is it possible that accounts of Jesus’s birth – virgin birth – were added to those Gospels in an attempt to make Jesus more “pagan” and fend off the persecutions?
1. You certainly can. 2. No, Jesus was not executed for breaking the Sabbath; that never comes up in the arrest, trial, or crucifixion scenes. 3. If they were added to make Jesus look more like a Son of God it would be probably to show his divinity, since none of the authors thought of him as pagan.
I just want to add to Dr. Ehrman’s response that the arguments between Jesus and the Pharisees over the Sabbath were over how to correctly observe it. Nor is there any suggestion AFAIK that the Pharisees ever said Jesus should be executed for how he observed the Sabbath.
Blasphemy in Jewish law of that time meant specifically cursing God by name. (Lev. 24:11) The Sadducees, which included most or all of the priests, did not accept any later laws such as those of the prophets, so they would only have charged Jesus with blasphemy for cursing the name of God, which he never died. The charge of blasphemy was made up by the evangelists as part of their effort to blame the Jews for the crucifixion.
People who deny the existence of George Washington or Abraham Lincoln tend to find “proof” for their conclusions out of thin air. I view Jesus existence deniers in the same light – conspiracy theorists who have suppressed every shred of critical thinking in order to arrive at a desired outcome.
Most of the time I just ignore them. Argumentation tends to be useless. I just hope that one day they’ll escape their agenda.
So, how did Salm get his presentation on the program of the SBL?
I asked that very question of the organizers; I thought it was a travesty. It was years ago now, I don’t remembrer what they told me. They probalby didn’t check his credentials (he doesn’t have any to speak of!)
That is a *great point* about the shallow graves for low-income, and rock-cut kokh needing higher income/resources.
Nabataeans buried folks of all incomes in kokh 🙂 Qumran Essene Jews and Petra, Nabataea
are one material culture -Transjordan.
So, Salms book is 2008. 2009 is when Alexandre publicizes her discovery. Her 2020 interview has Nazareth
settled by Hasmonean soldiers and others: https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=121724812
Mary and Jesus traveling to the Cana wedding is linked with both towns’ rebel under-ground.
If you have a *messianic secret* Nazareth is dope! Your mom linked to Hasmoneans.
Judaea uprisings were about the Herodian dynasty not being ethnically Jewish, but Arab, Idumean. So Herod marries Herodia – a rare Hasmonean heir – and ditches Nabataean Phaesalis.
Josephus wrote Menahem the Essene was in school with Herod. But Essenes are laborers?
If Jesus got a higher ed scholarship, that explains his eloquence in a common-sense way, but the fun stops on one word – Syrian.
Luke 4:27
“…in the time of Elisha the prophet, yet not one of them was cleansed—only Naaman the Syrian.”
Yikes. My man says God came to lead Jews through non-Jews in the Transjordan.
I’m wondering if you’d looked up Nabataea or Transjordan lately for your (amazing) work?
Not recently! Probably should…
I think it is really problematic to dispute an opinion based on the resume of the other side. Scholars are really needed in teaching, leading and for giving “Expert Judgments” which are views that don’t have sufficient evidence, and if we really needed such a judgment then we surely prefer to take it from a Scholar.
But it is really problematic notation that “Scholars have monopoly on research and developments of ideas”, especially that there are many remarkable insights were first postulated by non-scholars in the field. I just need to point out to the Continental Drift theorem which was postulated by Alfred Wegener in 1912, and he managed to provide compelling indications for his theorem, but the geological community at the time mocked his theorem mainly because Wegener didn’t have any geological credential, he was just a “Weather Man”.
I would assume that a dwarf who is standing at the shoulder of GIANTS can probably see things at the horizon that were missed by them. Equally, a person who can support his ideas with reports and evidences provided by Scholars might see some stuff that were missed by them.
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I also assume that disputing an opinion based on the other side “analytical conduct” is different than disputing it based on expertise. If non-Scholar (or even a Scholar) is manipulating the evidence available, if he highlighted some evidence and deliberately ignored others, if he is fabricating evidences, then that would be sufficient to ignore the whole work, but if a non-Scholar managed to collect the major reports on a specific matter, and managed to analyze it through proper analytical tools then at least his work will be an interesting read.
It is clear that Salm’s “analytical conduct” was not proper; it is clear that he didn’t follow a robust analytical method. But I also feel that stressing the point again and again that “he was not qualified” is a little bit too much.
Yes, the problems I hae with him are not related to whether he has a teaching position somewhere… It’s teh quality of his scholarship.
I’m of two minds about this story. One the one hand, I don’t have formal credentials, which makes me a little nervous (unlike Salm, I suppose!) when I get up to argue. On the other hand, I do try to make sure I have scholarly and source backing when I say something.
I’ve never claimed to be more than a student of history. But when Salm does the things you describe here, such as skipping over part of Dr. Alexandre’s report that don’t fit his thesis, or arguing that his opponents have ulterior motives, he gives all us good amateurs a bad name.
I don’t think it does. It only gives careless and biased amateurs a bad name!
The town of Jesus was the tiny town of Genesaret, not Nazareth. It is a town named after the lake of genesaret and it is a town near Capernaum. Gospel narratives clearly indicate the town of Jesus is adjacent to Capernaum.
The town called Nazareth was a new town, came into existence due to the misinterpretation of the phrase “Jesus the Nazarene” which means “Jesus the Holy One”. Church fathers such as Eusebius and Queen Helena thought Nazarene means Nazareth ( a corruption of genesaret, obviously a combination of two words – Nazarene and Genesaret= Nazareth) and wrongly identified this new place far from the lake of genesaret. Since then, the place identified by Queen Helena was known as the town of Jesus. The place had existed but it’s name was not Nazareth, most likely it was originally part of the town of sepphoris.
There are archeological evidences in the place because it was indeed inhabitanted but it’s name is Nazareth, most likely originally part of sepphoris or it’s nearby known town.
Dr Ehrman
apolgists say that the corinthian creed goes back few years after the crucifixion. pine creek asked, how do apologists know that it didnt go 1 month before the writing of the creed ?
your thoughts on this?
They’re making it up. All we know is that Paul heard it before he converted the Corinthians, so sometime before 50 CE or so. (Some apologists don’t understand what scholars mean when they say the creed is “pre-Pauline.” Scholars mean that it existed before Paul quotes it; some apologists I”ve talked to who don’t understand the lingo think that it means the scholars are saying it was around before Paul converted. Whoops. Wrong)
Of all the silly arguments by Mythicists, Salm’s stuff is among the silliest. He wrote his first book nitpicking at the archaeological evidence available at the time, all from the comfort of his amateur armchair. But then he was blindsided by new evidence, so he had to rush out a second book, this one resorting to a wild conspiracy theory to “explain” how his first book had been so wrong. And in the years since still more evidence has been unearthed and released. Poor old Salm keeps fighting his desperate rearguard battle against archaeological reality and losing more and more with each excavation. See here for a more detailed debunking of this case study in amateur hour obsessive nonsense:
https://historyforatheists.com/2019/10/nazareth-myth/