I recently was asked in a comment what kind of independent information do we have, outside the Gospels, for Pontius Pilate? Answer: not much. I told the commenter that I thought I had once written about the matter, and lo and behold, I was right. It was in my book Did Jesus Exist?
The book was written to show why — contrary to what you sometimes hear these days — there doesn’t seem to be any reason to doubt that, whatever else you might think of him, there was a man Jesus of Nazareth (a Jewish teacher from Galilee who was crucified on orders of Pontius Pilate — and about whom we can say a good deal more.
This is not an issue I want to re-address here again on the blog. But I do want to show why it’s not weird that Jesus isn’t talked about much in ancient sources. Here’s what I said about it in my book (slightly edited for the sake of the blog):
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I have often pointed out that there is no Greek or Roman author from the first century who mentions Jesus. It would be very convenient for us if they did, but alas, they do not. At the same time, the fact is, again, a bit irrelevant, since these same sources do not mention many millions of people who actually did, in fact, live. Jesus stands here with the vast majority of living, breathing human beings of earlier ages.
Moreover, it is an error to argue, as it sometimes is, that anyone as spectacular as Jesus allegedly was, who did so many miracles and fantastic deeds, would have certainly been discussed, or at least mentioned, in pagan sources if he really did exist. Surely anyone who could heal the sick, cast out demons, walk on the water, feed the multitudes with only a few loaves, and raise the dead would be talked about!
The reason this line of reasoning is in error is that we are not asking whether Jesus really did miracles and if so, why they (and he) are not mentioned by pagan sources. We are asking whether Jesus of Nazareth actually existed. Only after establishing that he did exist can we go on then to ask if he did miracles. If we decide that he did, only then can we revisit the question of why no one, in that case, mentions him. But we may also decide that the historical Jesus was not a miraculous being but a purely human being. In that case there would be no more surprise that Roman sources never mention him than that these same sources never mention any of his uncles, aunts, cousins, nieces or nephews – or in fact nearly any other Jew of his day.
In that connection, I should reiterate that it is a complete “myth” that Romans kept detailed records of everything and that as a result we are inordinately well informed about the world of Roman Palestine and should expect then to hear about Jesus if he really lived. If Romans kept such records, where are they? We certainly don’t have any. Think of everything we do not know about the reign of Pontius Pilate as governor of Judea. We know from the Jewish historian Josephus that Pilate ruled for ten years, between 26 and 36 CE. It would be easy to argue that he was the single most important figure for Roman Palestine for the entire length of his rule. And what records from that decade do we have from his reign, what Roman records of his major accomplishments, his daily itinerary, the decrees he passed, the laws he issued, the prisoners he put on trial, the death warrants he signed, his scandals, his interviews, his judicial proceedings? We have none. Nothing at all.
I might press the issue further. What archaeological evidence do we have about Pilate’s rule in Palestine? We have some coins that were issued during his reign (one would not expect coins about Jesus, since he didn’t issue any), and one – only one — single fragmentary inscription discovered Caesarea Maritima in 1961 that indicates that he was the Roman prefect. Nothing else. And what writings do we have from him? Not a single word. Does that mean he didn’t exist? No, he is mentioned in several passages in Josephus, and in the writings of the Alexandrian Jewish philosopher Philo, and in the Gospels. He certainly existed, even though, like Jesus, we have no records from his day or writings from his hand. And what is striking is that we have far more information about Pilate than about any other governor of Judea in Roman times. And so, it is a modern “myth” to say that we have extensive Roman records from antiquity that surely would have mentioned someone like Jesus, had he existed.
It is also worth pointing out that Pilate is mentioned only in passing in the writing of the one Roman historian who mentions him, Tacitus. Moreover, that happens to be in a passage that also refers to Jesus (Annals 15). If a highly important Roman aristocratic ruler of a major province is not mentioned any more than that in the writings of any Greek or Roman, what would be the chances that a lower-class Jewish teacher (which Jesus must have been, as everyone who thinks he lived agrees) would ever be mentioned in them? Almost none.
I might add that our principal source of knowledge about Jewish Palestine in the days of Jesus comes from this historian I have mentioned, Josephus, who was a prominent, highly placed aristocratic Jew who was quite influential in the social and political affairs of his day. And how often is Josephus mentioned in Greek and Roman sources of his own day, the first century CE? Never.
Think of an analogy. If a historian sixty years from now were to write up a history of the American South in, say, the twentieth and twenty-first centuries, is he likely to mention Zlatko Plese? (Zlatko is my brilliant colleague who teaches courses in ancient philosophy, Gnosticism, varieties of early Christianity, and sundry other subjects.) Almost certainly not. What does that prove? Technically speaking, it proves nothing. But it does suggest either that Zlatko never existed or that he did not make a huge impact on the political, social, or cultural life of the South. As it turns out, Zlatko does exist (I bought him dinner last night.). So if he is not mentioned in a future history of the South, it would no doubt be because he did not make a big impact on the South. To show he existed, one would have to look at other evidence (for example, library copies of the two books he has written. Unlike Jesus, Zlatko can write. And unlike the first century, we have the mass production and distribution of books, and libraries to house them in.)
So too with Jesus. If he is not mentioned much, it has little relevance to the question of his existence. It could just as well be because his impact was not significant enough, just as was true of the overwhelming mass of people who lived in the Roman empire of the first century. Many Christians do not want to hear that Jesus did not make an enormous splash on the world of his day, but it appears to be true. Does that mean he did not exist? No, it means that to establish his existence, we need to look to other kinds of evidence.
For those who might be interested in a comprehensive review of the sources we *do* have on Pilate, Helen Bond’s helpful monograph is available on kindle: https://a.co/4jhjwdD
You recommended this volume to me, Bart some years back, and I appreciate it.
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Dr. Ehrman, don’t you cite Pilate’s iron fisted approach as a ruler, as one reason you don’t find it plausible that he would have permitted Jesus a decent burial as reported in the gospels? Where does that characterization of Pilate come from, with the historical information on him being so sparse?
Josephus in particular is quite emphatic on the point.
As I recall, Eusebius used Josephus to prove the existence of Pilate.
Pontius Pilate gets a pretty lengthy Wikipedia entry and is much better known today than his far more illustrious contemporary Varus, who managed to lose 3 legions in Germany. Most of my fellow Brits would be hard pressed to name one Roman governor of Britain but most probably could name Pontius Pilate at a pinch. Thanks to the Nicene Creed he is easily the most famous Roman provincial administrator of all time.
You may be referring to my question of a few days ago where I asked you about Ann Wroes’ new biography of Pilate, and how in the heck there was enough material to weave a whole book out of. (Or maybe not–you might get asked about Pilate three times a week.) In any case, the book arrived from inter-library loan, and I’ve been making my way through it, slowly, because I don’t know nothing about no Pilate, outside of Francis Bacon’s wisecrack, having been educated in literature and not theology, a further disadvantage of a non-Christian upbringing. I’m finding it tough sledding because of those disadvantages but good reading, and I was thinking of offering you a review from an amateur perspective, assuming I make it to the end during this millennium. Mostly she works off speculation, other consuls’ lives, and a rich tapestry of Christian legends (which in my native language would be called “goyische bubbameisers”) and so far I’m learning a lot, though not much that’s very solidly based from a historical perspective.
I suspect early on people said the same thing as modern mythicists, that surely they would have heard about such a great miracle worker. I think that may be part of the motivation for the Gospel of Mark, to explain why the word was so slow and selective in getting out to the general public: Jesus himself suppressed the story!
Interesting!. Thank you for sharing your scholarship, Bart
Well, there was also that movie about his tiki bar in Jamaica… Pilate’s of the Caribbean…
Very bad….
Do you see Pilate as particularly ruthless for a Roman? I was always taught that by the internet (maybe loaded w. mythicists) that he was a super-hard ass who never would have behaved the way he he was depicted in the Gospels. Yet in Josephus War he backs down on the Shield’s once faced with kill or cut and run, even his reaction to the Aqueduct disturbances he was (relatively) chilled out in his response. In Antiquities, who knows re the Jesus part but vs. the Samaritans really that is the only place you can see him being bloody … but comparatively to time and Empire was it really? Philo’s embassy makes him out to be a jerk and bully but not really a psycho eager to kill…. What do you say Dr. E ?
I don’t think he was much worse than a lot of other Roman governors. But the reason he backed down on those issues was not because he was turhing soft but because he realized that the outcomes could be very bad indeed; mass riots could be contained of course, but it would take a lot of bloodshed and one of his major jobs was to keep the peace so that there would be no major uprisings (and so a threat to the tribute).
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Yup, it’s terrific. She’s unusually compelling as a lecturer.
I’ve listened to her great course and would recommend it.
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Hi Bart,
I am asking about your words “Unlike Jesus, Zlatko can write”:
it is reasonable to conclude that peasants at ancient times were illiterate, and Jesus was a peasant, therefore the ‘null hypothesis’ would be that Jesus was illiterate.
However, I would like to ask about the reasonability of the following steps of thoughts:
“James the Just” took charge after Jesus left the scene, and it seems that he was a prominent figure in Jerusalem to the point that he deserved a few favorable lines in Josephus Book. It is highly unlikely for this man in this position to be illiterate, but he was a peasant. Therefore, we could conclude that James had sufficient home education. If this was a reasonable conclusion then we could also conclude that Jesus also took similar home education.
This can reinforce the claim that James and Jesus had a family relationship with John the Baptist, and probably they all had the same home education.
There is another indicator that could support the above claim: it is highly unlikely for Jesus as a peasant to go head to head with the Pharisees without sufficient knowledge.
Would this be a reasonable conclusion?
My view is that James was illiterate. He became prominent among Christains because he was Jesus’ brother, not because he was well-educated. He would have been raised in a remote village/hamlet in rural Galilee, where there were no schools. I don’t see any way he could have gotten an education. If you seriously are interested in reading up on literacy in Israel at the time, I’d suggest the book by CAtherine Hezser. (There is also no reason to think most Pharisees were literate)
Thank you Bart, I have looked yesterday in the net for reviews and summaries about her book and found many useful articles.
I have based my argument here in the assumption that James was literate, but if you have a different view about this, then obviously my argument will not be accepted to you. It is fair to note here that my assumption was based on the fact that James was a prominent figure in Jerusalem, but I agree that this will not provide a concrete evidence for literacy, therefore I agree that my argument was not decisive.
To other point … Nazareth was 6km (about 1 hour walking distance) from Sepphoris, which was a well know town in antiquity, and although Josephus claims that the Roman burn it to the ground, the archaeology does not support this claim. Also, Nazareth was 3km (about half an hour walking distance) from Yafia (now called Yafa Al Naseriyye) which Josephus called it the largest village in Galilee.
Therefore, Nazareth was probably a small family village, but it wasn’t in the middle of nowhere. Therefore education was possibly available for interested families.
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Another point here is about the Pharisees, and I was pointing to the Rabbis among them; the ‘religious authoritative figures’.
These figures were highly educated in their religious studies, For example, Akiva bin Yosef was a farmer from a humble family in the late first century, who probably was illiterate. But it seems that at the age of 40 he entered to a significant midlife-crises and decided that he want to be a Rabbi, so he went for a rigid long 12 years of formal education and became one of the prominent figures in Jewish history. I was speaking about these types of religious figures.
That what I meant: Jesus could not have been able to go head to head with these religious figures without sufficient knowledge.
Just to provide an analogy for the above (and I do apologize if this analogy was inappropriate): you are one of the main gurus in this field. So, do you really think I would dare to go head to head with you in this subject without at least having the minimum sufficient knowledge!
We actually know very very little about Pharisees in the time of Jesus. The later rabbis told stories about them, but you need to remember that these stories come from hundreds of years later by people who were paingting their forerunners in their own images. Scholars for about 50 years now have realized that we cannot simply accept what rabbinic sources say about the early first century, and so scholars simpyl don’t use these sources to these ends these days.
Yup, many scholars think Jesus spent time in Sepphoris. I’m not one of them thought. Rural peasants simply didn’t get out of town much; often never. But even if he went there, it doesn’t mean he had an education. That would have taken masses of time cost a lot, and lowerclass folk in rural hamlets couldn’t affor either (time or money)
Sorry, but I don’t believe Zlatko exists, except perhaps as a celestial being.
His students agree. No human could know that much.
I don’t think Jesus was a real human being but I do believe Susej was, Susej came from outer space around 20 AD and did a lot of miracles in Syria (roman province) so I think he was the real Son of God.
I have often pointed out that there is no Greek or Roman author from the first century who mentions Susej. It would be very convenient for us if they did, but alas, they do not. At the same time, the fact is, again, a bit irrelevant, since these same sources do not mention many millions of people who actually did, in fact, live. Susej stands here with the vast majority of living, breathing human beings of earlier ages.
So you can create your own personal savior from ancient times, and if there is no sources speaking about him….
Don’t worry ! the fact is, again, a bit irrelevant he stands with the vast majority of living, breathing human beings of earlier ages
There is actually way more evidence than this snippet but you’d have to read his book on the historical Jesus.
I did it !!
But I couldn’t find the “evidence”, to try to find the historical Jesus in the gospels is like trying to find a historical Moses in Exodus…
I DO believe there was a rebel jew crucified by Pilate as Tacitus said , but we don’t even know his real name !!
Jesus .. “God saves” in Aramaic , mm what a coincidence for the savior son of God!
Ok, it was a common name in Palestine by the time.. read Josephus !! Well, I did it and found many Jesus, but also many Johns and James and Judas and many many other names, soi it was by far more common to have any other name than Jesus !!!
As I recall, didn’t Justin Martyr (Justin the Philosopher) state in one or more of his works that written Acts of Pilate were available somewhere that would provide evidence regarding Jesus’s trial and crucifixion? Not that they really did, but he certainly thought they did? Were such trial
records expected to be kept?
Yup, Justin says that (so too, Tertullian), and we do have trial records from later martyr accounts, but no, we don’t have them for 99.99% of the trials that took place, and I don’t know of any evidence that they were ever made as a rule.
“And what writings do we have from him? Not a single word.”
I suppose if we’re being really gnarly about things we could say Pilate’s words “The king of the Jews” is preserved in the gospels, presumably dictated by Pilate to a servant who wrote it on the sign above the cross?
I don’t know if he said those things or not, but yoiu’re right, theyare his recorded words BUt, not a single writing from him.
What would you consider being a written record by an ancient author? If a person was speaking publicly and a witness recounted their words, would that count? I should imagine not, as they didn’t commission the work, but what if they dictated a letter (or a sign) to a scribe or servant? Wouldn’t Pilate’s words count in that instance?
No, if you are quoted by someone else that is not your writing — unless the person is dictating to you and you’re recording what the person said on his instruction. IN antiquity cictation was a way of “writing” so that Paul “wrote” the ltter to the Romans even though Tertius put pen to papyrus. But that’s not the same as someone else saying (or claiming) that you said something.
very interesting.
Israel Antiquity Authority has also dug up a decorated insignia ring, with the writing PILATO.
this finding is from Herodiom – Herod’s palace and resting place.
The find is from the 1960s, but the ring was only catalogued a around 2018
The general inclination is to take it as Pilate’s on ring. That is, considering the location it was found at, the years this site was active and the fact that “PILATO” wasn’t a very common name then as far as we know
Thanks! Not everyone is sure that this was a ring worn by Pilate, both because it’s a cheap rinng and because of the weird spelling of the name. You might look at this, e.g.: https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-artifacts/inscriptions/pontius-pilate-ring-herodium/
thanks Bart!
I’ll look at the link
Dr, Ehrman
What do you think of the alleged ”acts of Pilate” that Justin martyr speaks of when writing a letter to the Emperor? Do you think that there were several acts written by the historical Pilate about Jesus trial?
Also, do you think that Justin Martyr was referring to a historical document? This is because I read he sent the emperor to look it up in the acts, to verify about Pilate..
I discuss it in my book The Other Gospels. We have several documents connected with Pilate (that I translate for that book) that are legendary accounts, including one that is actually called The Acts of Pilate. Fascinating stuff. But no, there’s zero reason for thinking Pilate wrote the emperor about Jesus any more than he did about the two other peole who crucified that day, or the five the next or … etc. it’s just Christian imagination.
Thank you so much for that answer! Also, why where tombs sealed by the roman in the antiquity? Do you think that was really a practice romans had? If so, what’s the reason behind it?
Another question, do you think that a criminal’s tomb qualified for being sealed away (regardless of the implications you had to meet for your tomb to be sealed)
It’s a good question. I”m not aware of sealed tombs, just tombs that have stones rolled in front of them.
Understood! That detail in the gospel of Matthew is very intriguing, never knew of that practice.
Dear Dr Ehrman,
The Gospel of Luke mentions in passing Galileans “whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices” (Luke 13:1).
-Do you think Luke refers to something that *actually* happened?
-And what was he referring to?
Thanks
He seems to be referring to something that he *thinks* actually happened. We don’t have any record of it though. But our record of Pilate’s reign is frustratingly fragmentary.