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Great Courses - No Excuses: Existentialism and the Meaning of Life and Astrology
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The evaluators of remote-viewing’s intelligence-gathering usefulness concluded that the technique “has not been shown to have value in intelligence operations.” They found that the information provided was vague, inconsistent (from viewing to viewing), and often irrelevant or outright erroneous. As mentioned earlier, they also stated that in some cases of touted hits the remote viewers might have had much more background information than was apparent. They determined that “remote viewings have never provided an adequate basis for ‘actionable’ intelligence operations-that is, information sufficiently valuable or compelling so that action was taken as a result” (Mumford et al. 1995).

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The Central Intelligence Agency recently commissioned a report on the effectiveness of US government funded research in demonstrating the existence of a remote viewing effect that could be used for intelligence-gathering purposes.  The evaluators focused their attention on successful studies recently conducted by Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) and concluded that the studies contained no discernible flaws.  This paper first outlines xx a key study in the report (referred to as Experiment One) and then examines whether the study contained four potential methodological problems.  The paper demonstrates that there are severe problems associated with reconstructing important aspects of the study and that two of the flaws may be able to account for the study’s outcome.  
 

 

“Targ and Harary’s much-publicized case for the reality of psi and the validity of remote viewing is filled with exaggerated and unsupported conclusions. Their careless scholarship leads to new deceptions.”

Ray Hyman, Professor Emeritus of Psychology at the University of Oregon

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December 26, 2019 - 2:32 pm

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The evaluators of remote-viewing’s intelligence-gathering usefulness concluded that the technique “has not been shown to have value in intelligence operations.” They found that the information provided was vague, inconsistent (from viewing to viewing), and often irrelevant or outright erroneous. As mentioned earlier, they also stated that in some cases of touted hits the remote viewers might have had much more background information than was apparent. They determined that “remote viewings have never provided an adequate basis for ‘actionable’ intelligence operations-that is, information sufficiently valuable or compelling so that action was taken as a result” (Mumford et al. 1995).

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The Central Intelligence Agency recently commissioned a report on the effectiveness of US government funded research in demonstrating the existence of a remote viewing effect that could be used for intelligence-gathering purposes.  The evaluators focused their attention on successful studies recently conducted by Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) and concluded that the studies contained no discernible flaws.  This paper first outlines xx a key study in the report (referred to as Experiment One) and then examines whether the study contained four potential methodological problems.  The paper demonstrates that there are severe problems associated with reconstructing important aspects of the study and that two of the flaws may be able to account for the study’s outcome.  
 

 

“Targ and Harary’s much-publicized case for the reality of psi and the validity of remote viewing is filled with exaggerated and unsupported conclusions. Their careless scholarship leads to new deceptions.”

Ray Hyman, Professor Emeritus of Psychology at the University of Oregon  

IGNORE because as usual, you have yet to prove yourself as someone with whom I want to have a polite discussion let alone someone with whom I want to think out loud or with whom I want to study Christianity, Quantum Physics, Existentialism, or Astrology.

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December 26, 2019 - 3:13 pm

Lecture 2: “Albert Camus – The Stranger, Part 1”

This novel is an excellent example of the new existentialist literature of the 1940s. Meursault, the title character, is critically devoid of basic human attributes. But then he kills a man, and we get to see him forced into philosophic reflection and humanity.

Camus was not comfortable with the label, existentialist.

I taught this book to undergraduates for 30 years. – Prof. Solomon
[I did read this book, but not at New York University and not at Baruch College. I read this book in a book club, after college.]

The main character does not think until the end of the book when he is on death row.

Listening to this lecture, one learns that the professor is describing a blank slate, human being, lacking humanity.

A Frenchman is condemned to death for killing an Arab “in self-defense” in Algiers in the 1940s is akin to a White man being condemned for killing a Black man “in self-defense” in the U.S. South in the 1930s. Why was there a trial?

You have to look at Kafka’s “The Trial” from 1925. 
[So a better educational experience, then, would have been to read The Trial by Kafka, then read, The Stranger by Camus.]

“To be human is to be guilty.”

The trial is to pour humanity upon an individual lacking humanity.

Pick up at Lecture 3: Camus – The Stranger, Part II

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December 26, 2019 - 4:22 pm

Any edits to this blurb, “For Existentialism, Astrology”?

The central themes of existentialism are:
1) the significance of the individual,
2) the importance of passion,
3) the irrational aspects of life, and
4) the importance of human freedom.

The central themes of astrology (with respect to existentialism) are:

1) the significance of the individual (the Sun) and the vehicle in which the self moves through life (the Ascendant);

2) the importance of the inputs of humanity (Pluto and Vesta for passion, Mars for initiative, Venus and Ceres for love, Mercury for intellect and communication, Moon for the awareness of emotional needs and emotional expression, Jupiter for justice and expansion, Chiron for helping others but at a cost to self, Saturn for wisdom and restriction, etc.;

3) the irrational aspects of life (Uranus for disruption and Neptune for idealism, quincunxes for disconnects contributing to irrationality); and

4) the importance of human freedom.

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December 26, 2019 - 4:41 pm

I checked the ToC of the lectures and do not see a lecture on existentialism and passion.

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December 26, 2019 - 7:12 pm

IGNORE because as usual, you have yet to prove yourself as someone with whom I want to have a polite discussion let alone someone with whom I want to think out loud or with whom I want to study Christianity, Quantum Physics, Existentialism, or Astrology.

I have been extremely polite.  I simply offered you scientific research that disconfirms your assertions.   The problem is not ignoring me.  The problem is ignoring reality. Astrology can be proven false in its particulars of course, but the real problem is conceptual.  It’s based on an enormous fallacy.  Namely, that the position of the earth is privileged in some way.  

I do have one procedural question for you.  Were all the horoscopes cast before the discovery of Pluto rendered invalid because of that discovery?  And now that Pluto has been classified not as a planet but as a Plutoid, or Kuiper Belt Object (there are thousands of these), has it’s mystic influence decreased, increased, or remained the same?

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December 26, 2019 - 11:28 pm

Steefen said
Any edits to this blurb, “For Existentialism, Astrology”?

The central themes of existentialism are:
1) the significance of the individual,
2) the importance of passion,
3) the irrational aspects of life, and
4) the importance of human freedom.

The central themes of astrology (with respect to existentialism) are:
1) the significance of the individual (the Sun) and the vehicle in which the self moves through life (the Ascendant);
2) the importance of the inputs of humanity (Pluto and Vesta for passion, Mars for initiative, Venus and Ceres for love, Mercury for intellect and communication, Moon for the awareness of emotional needs and emotional expression, Jupiter for justice and expansion, Chiron for helping others but at a cost to self, Saturn for wisdom and restriction, etc.;
3) the irrational aspects of life (Uranus for disruption and Neptune for idealism, quincunxes for disconnects contributing to irrationality); and
4) the importance of human freedom.  

 

A senior astrologer replied:

Uranus and Neptune take us to the abstract and what is beyond the confines of conditioning, which can be interpreted as irrational. and yet…

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December 27, 2019 - 6:32 pm

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IGNORE because as usual, you have yet to prove yourself as someone with whom I want to have a polite discussion let alone someone with whom I want to think out loud or with whom I want to study Christianity, Quantum Physics, Existentialism, or Astrology.

I have been extremely polite.  I simply offered you scientific research that disconfirms your assertions.   The problem is not ignoring me.  The problem is ignoring reality. Astrology can be proven false in its particulars of course, but the real problem is conceptual.  It’s based on an enormous fallacy.  Namely, that the position of the earth is privileged in some way.  

I do have one procedural question for you.  Were all the horoscopes cast before the discovery of Pluto rendered invalid because of that discovery?  And now that Pluto has been classified not as a planet but as a Plutoid, or Kuiper Belt Object (there are thousands of these), has it’s mystic influence decreased, increased, or remained the same?  

Stephen

Astrology privileges a single perspective, being location-specific, it is meaningless. Move a few light years away and the entire system becomes incoherent.

Steefen

In Quantum Physics, the individual soul on Earth would be the Observer. It unconsciously, subconsciously, and consciously, observes the geometric matrices of solar system objects and stars over its coordinates on Earth (holographic nature of physics and consciousness and the Quantum Physics of Astrology).

Move a few light years away and even the meteorologist will not be able to see his clouds and weather.

There are many sciences that are specific to location or a number of anchors. The sciences related to land are not specific to the sciences of the marine. The sciences related to a planet without land mass is not specific to a gas giant planet. The science of nutrition is different among different blood types. The sciences related to human survival are different from below sea level and high altitudes, on Earth vs. on Mars and even between Earth and Mars as one travels in space. So, yes, there is an astrology specific to inhabitants of Earth which has a moon and orbits the Sun. Astrology is partly based on the meaning given to astronomical observations over thousands of years. If a person is born in another solar system, there would be an astrology based on the meaning that population of being gave to their astronomical observations over thousands of years.

You have failed to explain your way out of Science’s anchoring the observer in Quantum Physics via entanglement.

Quantum entanglement is a quantum mechanical phenomenon in which the quantum states of two or more objects have to be described with reference to each other, even though the individual objects may be spatially separated. This leads to correlations between observable physical properties of the systems.

Astrological readings can be done without Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto. Adding these three planets can present more complexity to the substance of a personal reading but a personal reading has enough substance to be valid with just Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Venus, Mercury, Sun, and Moon. More detail can be added with the addition of stars, the dwarf planet Ceres, the asteroids Vesta and Chiron, and the north and south lunar nodes. Pluto is not a deal breaker.

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December 28, 2019 - 12:47 pm

The statement “I do not believe in astrology” can be correct because Astrology can be a belief system.

I believe Astrology does have a component of the iChing mechanism, an accumulation of the Collective Consciousness.

There is Wisdom in the iChing and there is Wisdom in Astrology. One can choose not to believe in Wisdom receptacles.

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December 28, 2019 - 12:50 pm

Steefen said
Any edits to this blurb, “For Existentialism, Astrology”?

The central themes of existentialism are:
1) the significance of the individual,
2) the importance of passion,
3) the irrational aspects of life, and
4) the importance of human freedom.

The central themes of astrology (with respect to existentialism) are:
1) the significance of the individual (the Sun) and the vehicle in which the self moves through life (the Ascendant);
2) the importance of the inputs of humanity (Pluto and Vesta for passion, Mars for initiative, Venus and Ceres for love, Mercury for intellect and communication, Moon for the awareness of emotional needs and emotional expression, Jupiter for justice and expansion, Chiron for helping others but at a cost to self, Saturn for wisdom and restriction, etc.;
3) the irrational aspects of life (Uranus for disruption and Neptune for idealism, quincunxes for disconnects contributing to irrationality); and
4) the importance of human freedom.  

I am making an edit as per a senior astrologer:

2) the importance of the inputs of humanity
(Pluto and Vesta for passion and solar system objects in Fire signs for passion…)

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January 7, 2020 - 5:55 pm

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… Associations that offer astrological certifications, colleges that offer degrees in Astrology certainly do incorporate methodology assessments. … 

Are there any major, accredited universities that offer degrees in astrology as part of their science curriculum?  

When has the study of Myth been a part of the science curriculum?

When has Psychology been a part of the science curriculum?

When has History been a part of the science curriculum?

Do you know the colleges of a typical university?

Astrology is not just Astronomy!

Refer to the University of Wales, Lampeter, The Sophia Centre where a person can get a Masters in Astrology:

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January 8, 2020 - 8:29 am

Steefen this constant bickering does get tiresome but the problem is that quantum physics is subtle and counterintuitive and difficult to understand.  It lends itself to occult interpretations based on misunderstandings.  For example, quantum entanglement is a mathematical relationship between particles.  It is astounding but it does not justify mystical interpretations.  The “observer” is an act of measurement not the person doing the measurement.   

There are many sciences that are specific to location or a number of anchors.

No this is wrong.  As far as we can tell the laws of physics operate everywhere the same.  Einstein’s whole point was that there are no privileged positions.  Even so-called “singularities” where the laws of physics seem to break down are exceptions that prove the rule.  Einstein’s math both predicts and accommodates the exceptions (like Black Holes).  The beauty of scientific method is that it works everywhere.  Science doesn’t have all the answers.  In fact it may not be possible to have all the answers.  But the gaps in our knowledge are just that, gaps.  Not invitations to fill them up with antiquated notions. 

Astrology and other such belief systems are predicated on there being privileged positions.  And I wasn’t being facetious about Pluto.  Many astronomers think that there is another large as yet undetected planetary body further out than the Kuiper Belt in our Solar System.  The ability of astrologers to pick and choose planets at will renders the entire effort arbitrary.  

A commitment to follow the evidence wherever it leads should not be abandoned simply because it confounds our expectations and contradicts our deeply held beliefs.  It is hard at times.  The prospect that at any moment  we may make a discovery that will seriously challenge our ideas is disturbing but it is exciting too.

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Stephen said
Steefen this constant bickering does get tiresome but the problem is that quantum physics is subtle and counterintuitive and difficult to understand.  It lends itself to occult interpretations based on misunderstandings.  For example, quantum entanglement is a mathematical relationship between particles.  It is astounding but it does not justify mystical interpretations.  The “observer” is an act of measurement not the person doing the measurement.   

There are many sciences that are specific to location or a number of anchors.

No this is wrong.  As far as we can tell the laws of physics operate everywhere the same.  Einstein’s whole point was that there are no privileged positions.  Even so-called “singularities” where the laws of physics seem to break down are exceptions that prove the rule.  Einstein’s math both predicts and accommodates the exceptions (like Black Holes).  The beauty of scientific method is that it works everywhere.  Science doesn’t have all the answers.  In fact it may not be possible to have all the answers.  But the gaps in our knowledge are just that, gaps.  Not invitations to fill them up with antiquated notions. 

Astrology and other such belief systems are predicated on there being privileged positions.  And I wasn’t being facetious about Pluto.  Many astronomers think that there is another large as yet undetected planetary body further out than the Kuiper Belt in our Solar System.  The ability of astrologers to pick and choose planets at will renders the entire effort arbitrary.  

A commitment to follow the evidence wherever it leads should not be abandoned simply because it confounds our expectations and contradicts our deeply held beliefs.  It is hard at times.  The prospect that at any moment  we may make a discovery that will seriously challenge our ideas is disturbing but it is exciting too.  

IGNORE because as usual, you have yet to prove yourself as someone with whom I want to have a polite discussion let alone someone with whom I want to think out loud or with whom I want to study Christianity, Quantum Physics, Existentialism, or Astrology.

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January 8, 2020 - 4:49 pm

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January 9, 2020 - 4:03 pm

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Ignore me if you wish but please take the time to read this ** you do not have permission to see this link **.  

Send it to the University of Wales.

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January 9, 2020 - 4:12 pm

Stephen said
Ignore me if you wish but please take the time to read this ** you do not have permission to see this link **.  

Yes, I wish to ignore you. I am in the company of Galileo and J.P. Morgan with respect to astrology.

Second, Johannes Kepler was a court astrologer.

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Robert said

They do not teach astrology as science so that seems unnecessary.   

Ignore you as well.

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