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Multiple Space Jesuses: What's the Problem?
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Robert
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Stephen
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November 11, 2025 - 1:16 am

Ever notice that scientific discussions of the prospect of alien life tend to be led by astrophysicists & astronomers?  We should pay more attention to the biologists who are far less sanguine about the prospect. They point out that homo sapiens and our hominin relations appeared only after billions of years of unguided, contingent evolution that included five mass extinctions, the last caused by an asteroid impact,  the celestial equivalent of a traffic accident, clearing out an ecosystem that allowed our ancestors to thrive. 

There was nothing inevitable about us.  There is nothing inevitable about aliens.  If the human race ever truly internalizes the precariousness of our position perhaps we will finally adjust our priorities.  

Let us consider the Trilobites. And tremble.

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November 11, 2025 - 9:17 am
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November 11, 2025 - 11:03 am

I still marvel at the illusory bubbles of reverse entropy that is life.

It really is something to marvel at. 

Πάντα μ’άρεσε αυτό το τελευταίο στίχο. Πολύ ωραία αλλαγή.

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November 11, 2025 - 1:31 pm
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November 11, 2025 - 6:41 pm

Comment 211

YouTube Channel Star Talk, Video: Answering Questions about Virtual Particles, Moon Bases & Negative Gravity
The Wow Signal.

Steeefen

I went to the timestamp for The Wow Signal and the update was, it only happened once and it was of unknown origin and it should have repeated itself.

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November 11, 2025 - 9:08 pm

Comment 221

Robert doesn’t want to hear about a very smart kid?

I’m willing to listen to a scientifically smart kid who know much more about CERN than I do. I want to know how he is recognized as scientifically smart.

But, as he certainly was way smarter than anyone, child or adult, there were no conclusions that interested me.

Second, the share links were not converting to videos.

For two reasons, I said: save for another time.

 

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What you can find a video posted by Stephen as Hilarious but you cannot stand to watch a very smart child, Max Loughan? That kid, knows more than us. He knows more than you about CERN. I applaud that kid for being so smart, leading us to think and talk about CERN. Maybe something CERN does helps us understand CREATION–the God Particle.

 

But like I said, he can run his mouth and sound smart, but at this point in time, as a former newspaper editor, book editor, researcher and article writer myself, I can’t use him for the arguments I entertain–maybe at another time he can contribute to debates I entertain.

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November 11, 2025 - 9:49 pm
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BJH1960

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November 12, 2025 - 12:24 am

But like I said, he can run his mouth and sound smart, but at this point in time, as a former newspaper editor, book editor, researcher and article writer myself, I can’t use him for the arguments I entertain–maybe at another time he can contribute to debates I entertain.

If I’m reading you correctly, you are talking about internal arguments and debates.

How about a discussion with us about the relative merits of what you’re proposing? 

Why not just answer questions?

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November 12, 2025 - 10:28 am
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Stephen
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November 12, 2025 - 11:08 am

BJH1960 said

I still marvel at the illusory bubbles of reverse entropy that is life.

It really is something to marvel at. 
Πάντα μ’άρεσε αυτό το τελευταίο στίχο. Πολύ ωραία αλλαγή.
  

Isn’t the utter astonishment at being alive at this moment in this place the source of most of our religion and art and philosophy? 

 

Much of this discussion about alien life is a matter of perspective.  Let’s say for argument’s sake that there is an average of one sentient, technological species per galaxy.  There are trillions of galaxies!  You could hardly claim that intelligent life was rare. Yet what are the chances that we will ever be able to communicate in any way with another galaxy?  Even if we aren’t alone, we are alone.   

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November 12, 2025 - 11:09 am
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November 12, 2025 - 1:18 pm

Comment 228

Robert, YOU brought up the YouTube channel Star Talk.
Apparently, you want people to consider your suggestions.
That’s what I did. You want to set the example by suggesting Star Talk as a Rule-approved channel.
I told you the video about the Wow signal was something I would consider.
My conclusion after watching the relevant minutes, is that it was NOT impressive.

Second, the removed video about the smart kid.

CERN looks at reality of more than space-time reality. In space-time reality of the solar systems, galaxies, the universe, there are other advanced civilizations. Quantum science shows there are connections from our solar system to points far away from our solar system, HENCE, what happens here can affect points far away from her our solar system. THEREFORE, interstellar probes can be sent to check what we are doing and let us know the far away consequences.

And that is the merit of my position.
What? The Bible and the Savior Jesus told us about the risks of 20th century and 21st century CERN?
No, the Bible and Jesus did not.

Holding on to a Bible-Jesus world view that there are no other advanced civilizations on or off Earth is retrograde.

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November 12, 2025 - 1:24 pm

What? The Bible and the Savior Jesus told us about the risks of 20th century and 21st century CERN?
No, the Bible and Jesus did not.

What about the possibility of interstellar probes?
The Bible, God, and Jesus told us what?
Answer: Capture what you can and reverse engineer?

The Bible is Earth-centric.
So let’s pretend and gaslight and shut down whistle blowers that there are no other civilizations and no other intelligence that can interact with us?
I’m not going to join you in misleading people.
The U.S. Government, other governments, contractors, and you with your rules can hide info. but the UFO/UAP investigations go on.

And why are there expensive investigations, Robert, Stephen, BJH?

Because there are objects not from our civilization.

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You want evidence?
Here is the United States Government and whistle blowers of the U.S. Government and the same from the former USSR.

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November 12, 2025 - 2:25 pm

It’s meaningless to ask if those stories are right…

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November 12, 2025 - 3:25 pm
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November 12, 2025 - 4:36 pm

Robert
I did not post a video about ** you do not have permission to see this link **; You found part of a video on Star Talk in which Neil deGrasse Tyson answered a viewer’s question about the Wow! signal and it did not impress you; so what? 

Stephen
You asked a question.

I answered.

That’s what so what is.

You suggested a video from Star Talk.

That means you found Star Talk and Neil deGrasse Tyson up to your standards.

So what? 

Either you’re sharing a source that you like and that suggestion is important OR IT IS NOT IMPORTANT.

What is it?

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November 12, 2025 - 4:41 pm
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November 12, 2025 - 4:44 pm

Robert

It was not presented as an update.

Steefen

Wow is from 1977. This is late 2025. What is the current conclusion on a 1977 signal after more than 30 years.

Your reply: “it was not presented as an update” does not change that. I’m glad someone asked about that.

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November 12, 2025 - 4:45 pm

Gibberish?

That means you are not able to follow what was presented.

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