First version of the gospel: Asinus Pollio’s biography of Julius Caesar is distributed to his veterans by means of annual remembrances
Next: Julius Caesar’s biography gets intermingled into Jewish culture via Herod the Great (King of the Jews and Messiah) and his military veterans
Next: Julius Caesar’s biography gets intermingled for the military veterans of Vespasian and Titus and we get the post-Jewish Revolt gospels: Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John
Boy, you betta saeng.
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Steefen
([After a shocked pause] No she didn’t.)
Dear Sincere and Humbly Holier Than Thou,
#1. Get yourself an Astro*Carto*Graphy report from the United Kingdom. Google and get. I did.
#2 Pick up a book called Chinese Sexual Astrology.
#3 Get yourself on astro.com and find out where your North Node is. Then get Jan Spiller’s book Cosmic Love.
Yes, you’re going to HAVE to do these things because Jesus is a literary creation based on Julius Caesar. Jesus is a Jewish version of Julius Caesar created by the Vespasian Empire during the Jewish Revolt because of his military victory over the Jewish Revolt.
Hello: Gospel means Good Military News
“The word Gospel in Greek is Evangelion. It literally means ‘good news of military victory’
Julius Caesar was made a god because of the Gallic wars he won and the civil war he won. Jesus doesn’t hold up: we fell through, we’ve been fallin’ through, whether you know the real deal or not.
The Jewish Jesus is the Divus Julius (the god Julius Caesar) of the Flavian Empire after Vespasian and Titus’ evangelion (gospel) of putting down the Jewish Revolt.
The Jesus of Galilee they ran into really aggravated Vespasian. Vespasian sent a delegation to Jesus of Galilee. When they got off their horses, Jesus stole their horses and made them walk back to Vespasian. Vespasian was of the equestrian order and was unforgivably aggravated by losing the horses. “So, who are we going to call Julius Caesar? Who’s going to be the Jewish Julius Caesar?”
Now, you know the Julius Caesar is going to have to end up being another Roman Emperor or Roman General. The Jewish Julius Caesar has to be killed by us, crucified.
I’m eternally aggravated by that presumptuous Jesus of Galilee who insulted my delegation of healing, conversion, and peace and stole my horses. I want his name to go down in history.
When the story turns from him being Julius Caesar to his inevitable tropaeum (cross) of an evangellion (gospel), his cross will be a crucifixion. Titus, didn’t you kill him at the Battle of Galilee? And then we will resurrect Jesus as Titus and people won’t recognize him because he IS a different person; but still Lord Julius Caesar, Roman imperial leadership whether Julius Caesar, Augustus being the son of Divus Julius (god Julius Caesar), or our own evangelion hero, Titus.
The Cainites honored Judas, the betrayer, because Julius Caesar’s betrayer, Brutus, had military veterans, and in his mind the King of the Romans should be killed because The Republic of Rome has no kings!
So, when Dr. Ehrman wrote about the Gospel of Judas, what we are seeing is Jesus’ love of Judas because Julius Caesar did not want to be king and loved that someone agreed with him: he had to be turned over for assassination for the sake of SPQR.
Cainites
They regarded Judas the traitor as having full cognizance of the truth. He therefore, rather than the other disciples, was able to accomplish the mystery of the betrayal, and so bring about the dissolution of all things both celestial and terrestrial. The Cainites possessed a work entitled The Gospel of Judas, and Irenaeus says that he had himself collected writings of theirs, where they advocated that the work of Hystera should be dissolved. By Hystera they meant the Maker of Heaven and Earth.
Epiphanius also says that Judas forced the ** you do not have permission to see this link **, or rulers, against their will to slay Christ, and thus assisted us to the salvation of the Cross. Philaster, on the other hand, assigns the action of Judas to his knowledge that Christ intended to destroy the truth—a purpose which he frustrated by the betrayal.
There is no doubt that they applauded the action of Judas in the betrayal, but our authorities differ as to the motive which prompted him. The view that Judas through his more perfect Gnosis penetrated the wish of Jesus more successfully than the others, and accomplished it by bringing him to the Cross through which he effected redemption, is only one of them.
– Wikipedia
Was Divi Filius begotten or adopted by Divus Iulius: was the Son of God Octavian begotten by God Julius Caesar or adopted?
(Answer: He was adopted.
If Julius Caesar had put Caesarion, his begotten son with Cleopatra VII Philopator, in his will, he would have been begotten.)
Was Jesus begotten or adopted by the Father?
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Mark Antony did not accept Divi Filius (Octavian) as equivalent to God Julius Caesar.
Arius took the same position that Jesus the Son was not equivalent to God the Father.
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Julius Caesar the father suffered. Adopted son Octavian did not suffer.
This position is aligned with the anti-Trinitarian “heresy” Patripassianism that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three different modes perceived by believers but there is only one person in God truly existing, God the Father; hence, only the Father suffered.
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The biography of Julius Caesar is made Jewish with Jesus.
There are 26 extractions from the biography of Julius Caesar that appear in the gospels.
Marcion rejected the Hebrew add-on to the gospels.
We have a 27th extraction from the life of Julius Caesar appearing in the gospel.
Julius Caesar vs. Cicero
Caesar’s Anticato (Cato was not virtuous) vs Cicero’s Cato (Cato was virtuous)
Julius Caesar: Cato gave his PREGNANT wife to an elderly Hortensius only to remarry her shortly after as a rich widow, debasing marriage into a financial transaction, enriching himself.
Jesus (denouncing scribes): They devour the houses of widows.
Mark 13: 40
First version of the gospel: Asinus Pollio’s biography of Julius Caesar is distributed to his veterans by means of annual remembrances
Next: Julius Caesar’s biography gets intermingled into Jewish culture via Herod the Great (King of the Jews and Messiah) and his military veterans
Next: Julius Caesar’s biography gets intermingled for the military veterans of Vespasian and Titus and we get the post-Jewish Revolt gospels: Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John
The final Hebrew version sacrifices overt military references because after the First Jewish-Roman War, the last thing to do to quell Jewish militant messianism is to militarize their gospel.
When military veterans went civilian after a time of war, some were given land to tend; so, in the following New Testament account, Jesus Christ’s Parable of the Wicked Tenants, military service is demilitarized to vineyard service.
28th Extraction: Julius Caesar Had Rebels / Jesus Had Rebels
Julius Caesar’s Account
War veterans wanted to be dismissed from the army to live their rewards instead of going to Africa for more war.
The praetor (army commander or magistrate) Sallustius was sent to straighten out the affair. He was almost killed.
Cosconius, a praetor was killed.
Galba, a praetor was killed.
Julius Caesar: I will pay you in part now and the balance with interest when others more worthy (because they fight with me in Africa, they produce when called) earn the triumph.
“All these things caused much ill-feeling at Rome. Caesar was quite aware of what was going on and disapproved of it, but, because of the general political situation, he was forced to make use of those who would do his will.” – Fall of the Roman Republic, Julius Caesar, Section 51, Plutarch
Jesus Christ’s Account
The Gospel of Mark, Chapter 12: 1-12
A man planted a vineyard.
He leased it to tenant farmers.
The man sent Representative #1 to tell the farmers I need what you produce.
Representative #1 was attacked.
Representative #2 was sent and he was attacked.
Representative #3 was sent and killed.
Other representatives were sent, some were beaten, some were killed.
What Jesus, or the preachers who told this sermon as commentary on the life of Julius Caesar, left out was the reason for the rebellion of the tenant farmers: they weren’t paid.
Jesus: I will give the vineyard to others [ who will give me the produce at the proper time. Now is the time to go to war in Africa, not rest on your laurels.]
And elsewhere, Jesus speaks of banquet invitations and those who should come did not come. So, I think of the banquet of triumph.
29th Extraction from the Biography of Julius Caesar into the Gospels:
Triumphal Entry
* a Pontic triumph over Pharnaces;
* an African triumph over the Africans who had supported Scipio, in which Juba’s son, the writer Juba, was carried when he was only a baby;
* and also a kind of Egyptian triumph, between the Gallic and Pontic processions, for the naval battle on the Nile.
30th Extraction from the Biography of Julius Caesar into the Gospels:
Saved Others but Not Himself
Marcus Pacuvius was an ancient Roman tragic poet. He is regarded as the greatest of their poets of tragedies prior to Lucius Accius.
Pacuvius lived from 220 BC to 130 BC. He wrote a poem, “Contest for the arms of Achilles.” A verse from this poem was recited at the funeral of Julius Caesar:
“Have I saved them that they may ruin me?”
Jesus Christ:
The Gospel of Matthew 27: 42
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It is the same sentiment: I’ve saved others from death but I cannot save myself from death. If necessary, I’ve saved others from the death of their present incarnation, but I cannot save myself from the death of my present incarnation. A reincarnation could follow. A resurrection like Osiris can follow. Deification can follow. But the death was real.
First version of the gospel: Asinus Pollio’s biography of Julius Caesar is distributed to his veterans by means of annual remembrances
Next: Julius Caesar’s biography gets intermingled into Jewish culture via Herod the Great (King of the Jews and Messiah) and his military veterans
Next: Julius Caesar’s biography gets intermingled for the military veterans of Vespasian and Titus and we get the post-Jewish Revolt gospels: Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John
The final Hebrew version sacrifices overt military references because after the First Jewish-Roman War, the last thing to do to quell Jewish militant messianism is to militarize their gospel.
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1) First version of the gospel: Asinus Pollio’s biography of Julius Caesar is distributed to his veterans by means of annual remembrances
2) Next: Julius Caesar’s biography gets intermingled into Jewish culture via Herod the Great (King of the Jews and Messiah) and his military veterans
3) Next: Julius Caesar’s biography gets intermingled for the military veterans of Vespasian and Titus and we get the post-Jewish Revolt gospels: Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John. The final Hebrew version sacrifices overt military references because after the First Jewish-Roman War, the last thing to do to quell Jewish militant messianism is to militarize their gospel.
4) The Book of Revelation shows the third Flavian emperor, Domitian, as a Jesus Christ figure being against the war of his father and older brother.
Suggestion #1:
Julius Caesar did not ask to be remembered by Body Eaten, Blood Drunk (Holy Communion).
Maybe it is from Mithra worship, but it is not from Julius Caesar’s last supper.
Body Eaten, Blood Drunk seems to come from the cannibalism of the concurrent Jewish Civil War and the First Jewish-Roman War.
Remember, you have already asserted that in no way could Jesus’ disciples and especially under James “the Brother of Jesus” could the disciples perform Holy Communion from 33 Common Era to 69 Common Era while the Temple held its holidays of sacrifices (bodies of sacrificial animals were slaughtered and the blood of sacrificial animals flowed over the altar of the Temple).
If the latter is the case, then, again, there is no Jesus of 30 – 33 C.E. with a Last Supper and Last Supper remembrance. In the Gospel of John, Jesus does not wait until his Last Supper to tell his followers to hold “Holy Communion.”
The last supper of those dying of starvation who turned to cannibalism had cannibalism as their last supper.
Jesus, as a member of the Trinity, whould have known blood taken into the body is done by transfusion not by drinking it.
So, returning to how one moves from the biographies of Julius Caesar to the gospels, do not expect the religion of God Julius Caesar to have the Body Eaten, Blood Drunk ritual.
But Paul was telling the Corinthians to do this: 1 Cor. 11: 23-25, prior to the start of the Jewish Revolt.
Then in addition to the Hebrew version of the God Julius Caesar gospels being-back dated 40 years before the end of the Jewish Revolt, Paul’s First Letter to the Corinthians also cannot be dated to before the cannibalism of the Jewish Revolt. Besides, why would there be the ritual of Holy Communion which destroys Judaism (Deut 28: 53, 55; Jer 19: 9; Lam 4: 10; and Lev 17: 10) before Temple Judaism is destroyed?
Suggestion #2:
Consider the change in ideology from Octavian, Caesar Augustus with his Aeneid by Virgil
to
“Paul’s” Letter to the Romans.
These are two different ideologies, Virgil’s ideology of the ideal citizen for Rome vs. Paul’s ideology of the ideal citizen for Rome.
Jesus feeds 5,000 is
Julius Caesar, after giving a speech to his army, feeds a legion of soldiers
either by having them eat the food for the soldiers of Pompey the Great or by plundering a city.
Julius Caesar also feeds crowds of people from his own money, his own personal credit, and from his expense accounts.
While fighting in Gaul, Caesar’s legion could have been as small as 3,500 men, a typical legion of Rome’s Late Republic had 5,120 legionaries as well as a large number of camp followers, servants and slaves. Legions could contain as many as 6,000 fighting men when including the auxiliaries.
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[Julius Caesar] spent money recklessly, and many people thought that he was purchasing a moment’s brief fame at an enormous price, whereas in reality, he was buying the greatest place in the world at inconsiderable expense. [No wonder Cato had to loan his pregnant wife out to an old rich man and then marry her back as a rich widow just to keep up with Julius Caesar–the things people will do to keep up with the Joneses.] We are told for instance that before entering upon public office, he was 1,300 talents in debt. Then, on being appointed curator of the Appian Way, in addition to the official allowance, he spent vast sums of his own money on it. And, when he was aedile, he provided a show of 320 pairs of gladiators fighting in single combat, and what with this and all his other lavish expenditure on theatrical performances, processions and public banquets, he threw into the shade all attempts at winning distinction in this way that had been made by previous holders of the office.
The result was to make the people so favourably disposed towards him that every man among them was trying to find new offices and new honours to bestow upon him in return for what he had done.
(Caesar, Section 5, Plutarch)
Among all the Hebrew prophets, Jesus was the Caesar of feeding crowds of people. Moses provided honey wafers (manna) and water, but Jesus provided bread, fish, and could turn water into wine. Barring an exodus, the Hebrew prophets are not known for feeding large crowds, armies, of people.
Jesus feeding crowds of people is an extraction from the biographies of Julius Caesar.
What is this?
Son of God, Vespasian, and two criminals, tied up, on the floor
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It’s disturbing that the gospels would say the crucified Jesus had a thief on his left and one on his right with Vespasian distributing These coins when the gospels are being written.
Any comments?
Reply:
Stephen (Pen Name Steefen),
Military trophy/tropaeum, armor of the opponent and two bandits tied up? Not so fast. Get it exactly right.
If you were looking at side two/the tails side of the coin for a Julius Caesar coin, this is what you would see:
They are not two criminals (bandits = rebels against Rome), exactly.
The woman IS the conquered country.
For Would Be King/Emperor Julius Caesar it was Gallia.
For Emperor Vespasian it was Galilee and Judaea.
The man is the commander-in-chief of the vanquished enemies whose weapons are exposed on the cross/tropaeum.
In the case of Julius Caesar, that would be Vercingetorix.
In the case of Vespasian, that would be Jesus of Galilee. (I believe that was the last battle Vespasian fought before turning over military control to his son Titus, who took Judea).
Julius Caesar – Vespasian: mu·ta·tis mu·tan·dis (used when comparing two or more cases or situations) making necessary alterations while not affecting the main point at issue.
Now, if you really want to talk about the two people on either side of the biblical Jesus crucifixion, we have to talk about Cinna Helvius (the good one) and Cinna, Cornelius (the bad one).
Stephen (Pen Name: Steefen)
Thank you.
The skeleton of the Jesus Christ character is the historical figure Julius Caesar.
The military victory of the new political system, Jesus’ Son of Man Movement toward the Kingdom of Righteousness starts when Julius Caesar crosses the Rubicon.
Julius Caesar (Jesus Christs’ skeleton) wrote commentaries on the civil war at the end of the Roman Republic.
Caesar wrote his commentaries officially and diplomatically for the Senate.
What we find in the biographies Julius Caesar starting with Asinius Pollio’s biographical writings is not going to be the same material Julius Caesar communicated to government. What we find in the biblical biography of Jesus, what he shared with disciples, would not be what a Jesus would say to Pontius Pilate, an official of Rome. For example, the only example, my kingdom is not of this world because Rome is a Republic without kings; likewise, a political space for Jesus Christ in Jerusalem or Ancient Palestine was not in existence or about to be created by Rome even if Jesus Christ was not a character of historical fiction built on the bones of Julius Caesar.
– Steefen
Modern Europe is the heir of Julius Caear’s Civil War. The skeleton of Jesus created Europe [and Western Civilization].
Dio Cass. HR 43.17.4-5.
The 31st Extraction from the Biography of Gaius Julius Caesar into the Gospels: Both Spoke against Infighting
The Life of Gaius Julius Caesar
Caesar opposed the civil war before he crossed the Rubicon.
How can Pompey the Great drive out Gaius Julius Caesar?
How can Gaius Julius Caesar drive out Pompey the Great?
If the Roman Republic is divided against itself, it cannot stand.
If Consuls or Senators are divided against themselves, the Republic cannot stand
and its end has come.
The Life of the Biblical Son of Man Jesus Christ
So Jesus called them together and began to speak to them in parables: “How can Satan drive out Satan?
If a kingdom is divided against itself, it cannot stand.
If a house is divided against itself, it cannot stand.
And if Satan is divided and rises against himself, he cannot stand; his end has come.
Mark 3: 23-26
The gospels present Jesus as giving a description of the Jewish Revolt with specific details.
Francesco Carotta denies this and tries to tie any apocalypse/tribulation back to the fall of the Roman Republic – Rise of Octavian to Emperor. This in no way compared to the apocalypse/tribulation of Temple Judaism.
1) There is no destruction of religious hopes
2) There is no destruction of cities (including the central city that drew visitors for Passover). The population of Jerusalem swelled in size during Passover.
3) Rome was destroyed on the same scale as Jerusalem in the Life of Julius Caesar or 40 years after? No.
4) The only religion Rome had was destroyed? No. For the Jews Temple Judaism ended and converted to Synagogue Judaism.
5) The Book of Revelation is about the Apocalypse of the Jewish Revolt.
U.S. scholar, Prof. and Dr. Bart Ehrman would say Jesus was an apocalyptic prophet. I say Julius Caesar never got around to being an apocalyptic prophet for Rome because he won all of his military battles–there would be no famine for Rome and Rome surrounded by armies during its apocalypse/tribulation as we find for Jerusalem.
Francesco,
The Gospels present Jesus as giving a description of the Jewish Revolt with specific details.
Jesus claimed the Son of Man would be enthroned after a time of tribulation.
The tribulation would be marked by dramatic and horrific events.
When you see the desolating abomination spoken of through Daniel the prophet …
Matthew 24: 15
… and the people of a leader who will come shall destroy the sanctuary. Then the end shall come like a torrent. Until the end, there shall be war, the desolation that is decreed.
Daniel 9: 26
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The Temple of Jerusalem would be demolished because of or before the coming of the Son of Man (Matthew 24: 2, Mark 13: 2, and Luke 21: 6)
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There would be famine (Mark 13: 8);
There was a famine during the Jewish revolt (Wars of the Jews, Book 5, Chapter 10, Sections 2 and 3) and cannibalism which we remember through Holy Communion.
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When Jerusalem is seen to be surrounded by armies, know that its desolation is at hand.
“Then those in Judea must flee to the mountains. Let those within the city of Jerusalem escape from it, and let those in the countryside not enter the city,
for these days are the [days] of punishment when all the scriptures are fulfilled.
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When Jerusalem is seen to be surrounded by armies, know that its desolation is at hand.
“Then those in Judea must flee to the mountains. Let those within the city of Jerusalem escape from it, and let those in the countryside not enter the city,
for these days are the [days] of punishment when all the scriptures are fulfilled.
Woe to pregnant women and nursing mothers in those days, for a terrible calamity will come upon the earth /and a wrathful judgment upon this people. They will fall by the edge of the sword and be taken as captives to the Gentiles; and Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
The Gospel According to Luke 21: 20-24
Jerusalem, not Rome, was surrounded by the soldiers of John Gischala, Simon Giora, the Idumean soldiers, and the Romans
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It is frequently noted that the earliest Gospels seem to presuppose the destruction of the city of Jerusalem and of the Jewish temple, as happened in 70 CE. And so, for example, in Mark’s Gospel Jesus indicates that the nation of Israel will be destroyed (12:9) and that the temple will not be left standing (13:1-2). Matthew is even more explicit: here Jesus tells a parable in which God is portrayed as burning the city and killing its inhabitants (22:8). Luke has similar passages (e.g., 21:24). All these passages seem to presuppose that by the time the books were written, the destruction had happened.
Someone may respond by saying that in these passages Jesus is predicting the destruction of the Jerusalem, not looking back on it. Fair enough! But when is a Christian author likely to record a prediction of Jesus in order to show that he predicted something accurately? Obviously, in order to show that Jesus knew what he was talking about, an author would want to write about these predictions only after they had been fulfilled. Otherwise the reader would be left hanging, not knowing if Jesus was a true prophet or not. So even if we assume that Jesus did predict such things, the fact that they are written so confidently by later authors suggests that they did so after the events – that is, after the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in 70 CE.
– Dr. and Prof. Bart Ehrman
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You, Carotta, claim redaction of the Gospel of Mark before the Jewish Revolt, before the explicit descriptions of Jesus’ Apocalypse/Tribulation is not traditional scholarship but it is current scholarship.
I say such labeling is a fallacious argument that fails to persuade resulting in the erroneous conclusion that Jesus actually foretold 1) the destruction of the sanctuary, 2) the demolition of the Temple at-large, 3) famine, 4) Jerusalem surrounded by armies 5) people fleeing to the city as Rome marched south to Jerusalem and people fleeing away from the city given the Jewish Civil War, 6) Jews being trampled and taken captive by Gentile Romans [the Triumph of Titus].
And you are such in a hurry to claim “Joseph Atwill” when one does not have to read a word of Atwill to get to Jesus’ detailed descriptions of the Jewish Revolt and compare it against the Wars of the Jews by Josephus.
Which do you prefer Julius Caesar and Octavian or Vespasian and Titus?
Extractions from the Biographies of Julius Caesar and Caesar Augustus into the Gospel
The Lives of Gaius Julius Caesar and Gaius Julius Caesar Octavianus
When word reached Octavian of Caesar’s murder, the naming of Octavian as his uncle’s heir and posthumous adoption, reaction was mixed among his family and friends. His friends, likely Agrippa included, urged him to go to Macedonia and take refuge with Caesar’s former legions there. His mother and step-father, L. Marcius Philippus on the other hand, pressed him to return to Rome as a private citizen and refuse Caesar’s inheritance out of fear for his personal safety. Octavian sided in part with his family and decided to return to Rome, but readily accepted the adoption and the portion of Caesar’s estate that was willed to him. He took the name Gaius Julius Caesar Octavianus, as was his right by virtue of adoption, but Octavianus was dropped from conscious thought. It’s been used throughout the study of history to define him from his adoptive father, <span style=”font-weight:bold;” >but he identified himself simply as Caesar.</span> In so doing, he immediately entrenched himself as a favorite both with the masses and the all important veteran legionaries.
After making the decision to return to Rome to claim his inheritance, Octavian first crossed the Adriatic and landed in Brundisium, where he decided the safest course of action was an appeal to Caesar’s troops. A bold and daring move, and seemingly necessary to ensure his safety, it turned out to be the only way to ensure his legitimacy. As Octavian marched to Rome, and gathered support among Caesar’s Italian veterans, the de facto leader in Rome, Marcus Antonius, essentially ignored the youth. Not only did he blatantly disregard Caesar’s will, but made no effort to discuss the situation with Octavian or learn of his intentions. When Octavian finally arrived in Rome in late April, 44 BC, Antony still ignored him, and still attempted to block passing on Caesar’s inheritance. Octavian, however, garnered support from the masses and conflict seemed inevitable.
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The Life of the Biblical Jesus
I and my father are one. – Jesus, Gospel of John 10: 30
Octavian as John, the Evangelist, symbolized by the eagle.
John the Evangelist, the author of the fourth gospel account, is symbolized by an eagle
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Which do you prefer Julius Caesar and Octavian or Vespasian and Titus?
Julius Caesar did not fight his civil war / did not cross the Rubicon for a Kingdom of Heaven.
Second, John the Baptist was not Jesus’s Pompey the Great because John the Baptist was not Jesus’ opponent. The parallel does not go that far. Furthermore, John the Baptist did baptize. So, baptizing is not a metaphor for military enlistment such that John the Baptist is really Pompey the Great enlisting men to fight against Julius Caesar. On the one hand, one may have a miracle that did not happen as a metaphor for something that happened in Julius Caesar’s biography vs. there is baptizing that did happen.
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