In my previous posts I have pointed out that the Gospel of Mark (unlike the other Gospels) portrays Jesus as trying to keep his messiahship a secret. He doesn’t allow the demons to identify him when he casts them out; when he heals people he strictly instructs them not to tell anyone; he teaches his disciples the “secret of the Kingdom” privately when no one else is around; he teaches the crowds only using parables precisely (Mark indicates) so no one can understand what he means. And he never publicly teaches about his own identity.
This last point should be emphasized. Unlike other Gospels (see John 4:25-26!) Jesus never tells anyone publicly that he is the messiah. When he is acknowledged as the messiah by Peter in a private conversation with the disciples in Mark 8:29-30, Jesus orders them not to let anyone know. And then he starts teaching that as the messiah he has to be rejected and executed. That seems to be a complete contradiction of terms for Peter, who has just made the acknowledgment; Peter rebukes him for thinking so. Obviously the messiah doesn’t face rejection and execution – the messiah is supposed to rule Israel as the powerful leader sent from God! Jesus in turn rebukes Peter and calls him Satan. For Jesus (and Mark) Peter understands only in part. Yes Jesus is the messiah, but not the one anyone expects. So he keeps it secret.
But William Wrede, in his classic The Messianic Secret, did not think that this could be a historical reality. It’s not really what happened in the life of Jesus. As I pointed out yesterday, the “secrecy” actually doesn’t make any good sense in a number of ways, even in Mark’s Gospel, as a plausible historical event. So what’s going on?
Wrede devised the idea of Mark’s messianic secret to explain it. For Wrede the early Christians in Mark’s community were trying to explain why they themselves thought Jesus was the messiah if there were no stories about Jesus during his life advertising the fact. Why wasn’t he known as the messiah while he was alive, if we think (if we know!) he is the messiah now? The secrecy motif explains it. It is a fictionalized aspect of the Jesus story. No one in Jesus’ own time knew that he was a messiah – Mark’s community explained – because he hushed it up. The hush-up then becomes a central part of Mark’s own Gospel. It’s a non-historical idea. Didn’t really happen that way.
The result is profound. Mark’s Gospel is not a straightforward historical narrative that simply tells it like it was, as scholars had been arguing for a very long time, writing entire books about the life of Jesus with that very premise. No, just like the other Gospels, Mark’s was a theological account of Jesus’ life, one that has altered the facts of history in order to convey important theological points. You can’t simply trust that it narrates what actually happened.
To get to this conclusion, Wrede thought one passage of Mark was particularly important. Halfway through Jesus’ ministry, almost right in the middle of the narrative, after Peter has confessed that Jesus is the messiah and Jesus then reveals to the disciples for the first time that he has to suffer and die, comes the account of Jesus’ Transfiguration (Mark 9:1-9). Three of the disciples see with their own eyes that Jesus is no mere mortal but a heavenly being.
Jesus takes the three closest disciples, Peter, James, and John, alone up to a mountain top, where he suddenly is transformed before them. His garments become radiantly white, and Elijah and Moses come to speak with him. Peter proposes they build three tents for the three heavenly beings, when suddenly a cloud descends and a voice comes from the cloud (the voice of God, obviously), declaring to the disciples “This is my beloved Son. Listen to him!”
Another secret revelation, only the true insiders see, of Jesus’ unique identity. But then comes the key verse, Mark 9:9. Jesus tells the three of them that they are not to tell anyone what they have seen, “until the son of man rises from the dead.” Again, why does it have to be kept a secret? And why can the secret be revealed after Jesus’ resurrection?
For Wrede the verse revealed that the nature of Jesus’ identity was, according to Mark himself, not known during Jesus’ life, but only after the resurrection.
Wrede put this together with one other historical reality that can be surmised from various passages of the New Testament: the very first believers in Jesus after his death believed that it was precisely at the resurrection that Jesus had *become* the Son of God. This was the earliest Christology. Jesus was made the Son of God when God raised him from the dead.
This is a view that continues to be held widely today about the beginnings of Christianity. (It’s my own view, as I lay it out in How Jesus Became God.) During his life Jesus was revered by his followers as a great teacher and prophet. But it was the resurrection that made them think he was more than that, the actual Son of God, a being made divine and taken up to heaven. There is good evidence for this view in the speeches that the apostles are said to have made in the book of Acts. Read Acts 2:36 and Acts 13:32-33 carefully. They seem to embody the oldest Christian belief, that he man Jesus was made a divine being at the resurrection.
For Wrede then there are three important facts: the first Christians thought Jesus became the messiah/Son of God at the resurrection; but the later Christians of Mark’s community thought he had been the messiah/Son of God already during his public ministry; and in Mark’s retelling of the Jesus’ stories, Jesus explicitly indicates that no one will know his divine identity until after the resurrection.
Conclusion? Before Mark wrote his account, the Christians in his community made sense of it all by claiming that even though he had been messiah during his ministry (as they believed), the reason no one knew about it until after the resurrection (which was the historical truth), is because Jesus must have made it a secret during his life (as indicated ultimately in Mark’s Gospel itself). Thus the “messianic secret” is a later invention put on Jesus’ lips, that then came into Mark’s Gospel.
The other Gospels don’t have this view, except in a few places in Matthew and Luke where Mark’s version has not been fully altered by these later editor/authors. But they get rid of most of the secrecy motif, and it’s completely gone in John. It is distinctive of Mark.
And that shows that Mark’s narrative, like the others, is, at least in part, driven by theological, rather than purely historical, interests.
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“As I pointed out yesterday, the “secrecy” actually doesn’t make any good sense in a number of ways, even in Mark’s Gospel, as a plausible historical event.” Where do you point this out? I’m not seeing it.
“Wrede put this together…the very first believers in Jesus after his death believed that it was precisely at the resurrection that Jesus had *become* the Son of God. This was the earliest Christology. Jesus was made the Son of God when God raised him from the dead.”
I thought the earliest Christology was that Jesus was an angel who became human. Or that he was made the Son of God at his baptism. The disciples already believed he was the messiah, so how could he be the Son of God after his resurrection? The disciples believed Jesus when he told them the Son of Man was going to bring the Kingdom of God to earth, so maybe Jesus was behaving secretly in some ways.
I don’t see how the other Gospels not mentioning the messianic secret nullifies it. They do have passages where Jesus is behaving secretly. Seems like they’re adding to the narrative, not denying it.
Dr. Ehrman, it seems odd that Jesus wouldn’t want his hearers to understand his message. It looks like Jesus in mark 4:12 is quoting Isaiah 6:9. I’m trying to find where you address this. I’ve listened to your lectures on mark, but didn’t hear you discuss this directly. Don’t see it in your blog either. You mention that Matthew changed Mark on this point, but it seems that Jesus was just partially quoting Isaiah. Jesus not wanting the listener to understand was just temporary, if he is quoting Isaiah. What are your thoughts?
It certainly is quoting Isaiah 6:9. The author chose to quote that particular verse to mean this particular thing. Odd indeed! But his point is that Jesus teachings in parables *so that* they won’t understand and repent! Isaiah gave him just what he needed.
I’ve often wondered about Jesus’s insistence secrecy in Mark but have never come across this “messianic secret” argument. How fascinating!
Great read.
But is it plausible that there were rumors during Jesus’ lifetime that he might be the messiah? What’s the origin of the “King of the Jews” label?
Thanks. I think Jesus himself must have told his disciples that he saw himself that way. The Roman governor Pilate found out, and it does not appear to have been based on Jesus’ public preaching. I suspect that it’s what Judas “betrayed.”
Hi Bart,
You are saying that the Christians started to regard Jesus as the Son of God after the resurrection.
So, did James-the-Just referred to Jesus as the Son of God?
How about the Jews of Jesus? Did they start to refer to him after the story of the resurrection as the Son of God?
The background culture is one of the main filters that are used to explain ancient texts or even to reject ancient texts. So, did the background culture of the Jewish Community at the time of Jesus allow us to accept the notion that James, Peter (and even Mary) started to refer to Jesus as the “Son of God”?
I did discuss this subject in one of the platinum posts, but I am tackling it here from a different angle, and I can assume here that it would have been hard for a Jewish leader in his community (James) to start to call his own brother as “The Son of God”!
I truly think that “The Father” and “The Son of God” were metaphoric names established by the Christian Greek for the Christian Greek. But at one point of time later, these names transformed into assumed reality.
We don’t have any writings from James the Just. But Paul indicates that they agreed on Christ and his salvation, so I assume he did see him as the son of God.
Yes, we don’t have writings from James. However, we have sufficient data to identify (with a good level of confidence) the background culture of the Jewish community in Palestine at the time of James. The knowledge of this background culture can allow us to clarify the things that could or couldn’t happen there.
This is the main argument here: the background culture of that Jewish community at that time could not allow the Jews of Jesus (including James, Peter, Mary, etc) to refer to Jesus as the Son of God!
Regarding Paul: He was probably a hellenized Jew deeply immersed in the Greek culture. He probably lived a Greek life outside of Palestine, and I don’t think anyone can confidently say that Paul was fluent in Hebrew or Aramaic. He was writing in Greek for the Greek.
Here is another argument: the first Christian Greek have translated the concept of the “Prophet of God” (in relation to Jesus) to the “Son of God”, and have translated Yahweh & Adonai to “The Father”. These started as metaphoric names that was probably thought that it was more suitable for the Greek culture/people …. until the metaphoric have transformed later into reality.
So are you saying that the messianic secret motif was devised by the larger community from which “Mark” came and that Mark simply incorporated it into his narrative? I had always understood that the secrecy was an invention of the author of Mark to deal with the disconnect between the understandings of his community and the historical realities.
We don’t really know one way or the other. It is often stated that it was the form of the story Mark had learned, but … how can we tell! (The community, if the story originated before Mark, would be explaining to itself why they “knew” Jesus was the messiah when they also knew that no one was calling him that in his own day).
Do you think that Mark portrayal of the disciples as not being the sharpest tools in the shed indicates some Pauline influence? I ask AI this question and it said scholars are divided.
AI may have botched this one (it often does when it comes to nuance). It may have been indicating that scholars are divided on whether Mark was influenced by Paul in particular; Paul never says anything about the disciples being a bit dull on Jesus’ identity.
“For Wrede the early Christians in Mark’s community were trying to explain why they themselves thought Jesus was the messiah if there were no stories about Jesus during his life advertising the fact. Why wasn’t he known as the messiah while he was alive, if we think (if we know!) he is the messiah now? The secrecy motif explains it.”
I’m not sure this makes sense to me. As you’ve pointed out elsewhere, Bart, dying and being resurrected was never expected of the messiah—so Jesus’ having done so shouldn’t have convinced anybody that he was the messiah. Could it be that Mark’s messianic secret was simply an attempt to explain the embarrassing fact that there were still very few Christians in the author’s time? If this guy was the son of God, how come so few people are on board with the movement? The other gospel authors, writing later, might have come from larger Christian communities and not felt the need to use this material from Mark.
I think that Jesus was not an expected messiah is precisely what Wrede has in mind. Mark is saying that Jesus is the messiah no one wold have imagined and he’s trying to explain how he *could* be even though it was a secret at the time.
**”The other Gospels don’t have this view, except in a few places in Matthew and Luke where Mark’s version has not been fully altered by these later editor/authors. But they get rid of most of the secrecy motif, and it’s completely gone in John. It is distinctive of Mark.”**
But it’s not completely gone in John. Eg “For no man works in secret if he seeks to be known openly. If you do these things, show yourself to the world – for even his brothers did not believe in him” John 7:4-5. Or “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly” John 10:24.
And the motif is fully there in Matthew. It is in fact Mark not Matthew that finally abandons the secrecy motif at the trial. When asked if he is the “messiah the son of the blessed one”, where Matthew’s Jesus answers ambiguously “you have said so”, Mark’s Jesus proclaims publicly “I am”!
Mark’s challenge lies in the fact that whatever he introduces is unknown to the collective memory, and as such he must provide excuses why it wasn’t known: in essence, Mark has to create and destroy his own work at the same time. Mark has the task of supplying the original audience with plausible deniability of everything that he comes up with, lest it all backfire and blow up in his face. And he accomplishes that by introducing multiple witnesses, who however never testify to his Jesus
2) Jesus instructs all those who identify him as the Messiah in one way or another to not spread the word and with such, Mark’s Messianic creation gets destroyed at the same time, and plausible deniability is provided to all
1) John the Baptist, in Marcion, represents the prophets of Judaism as well as their failure to acknowledge Jesus. Mark turs JtB into a friendly character, the forerunner of Jesus even. Yet John now also is a witness to Jesus’ baptism, of which no one had ever heard before, and thus immediately exits the stage, only to be beheaded at a later point in time (Esther 7).
3) The resurrection? Compare Mark 16:8 to Luke 24:9-11…
What did Wrede think the historical Jesus was claiming about himself?
Good question. I don’t know.
Bart and the Greater Questions of Mary
https://ehrmanblog.org/the-los…..D400%20CE)
The Greater Questions of Mary came up on a video by Danny Jones. He also talked about Tiberius and Caligula.
My comment:
More disgusting and repulsive than Tiberias were Caligula and Jesus.
Apparently what Jesus wanted Mary Magdalene to do, Jesus wanted his disciples to do.
Question 1: Is that true?
Even if it is not, QUESTION 2: why would you even bring up The Greater Questions of Mary? QUESTION 3: Don’t you know that is enough for people to be “too through” with Jesus?
The Gospel of John doesn’t wait till The Last Supper to talk about eating my flesh and drinking my blood. Let alone the young man running away naked in Mark and let alone the young man in white in Jesus tomb, there is this. I get it: Jesus was a human with all working parts. QUESTION 4: Was he like Jerome and preferred everyone be virgins?
1. In this Gospel? Probably, I suppose.
2. Because it was relevant to our discussion
3. Not sure what you mean.
4. who? Jesus? He doesn’t say.
QUESTION 3: Don’t you know that is enough for people to be “too through” with Jesus?
Bart: Not sure what you mean.
Steefen: “Too through” means finished. So QUESTION 3 is: Don’t you know that is enough for members of Christian churches to be finished with Jesus?” That is repulsive and disgusting. They are not going that far with Jesus.
QUESTION #5: Neal Sendlak of the YouTube Channel, Gnostic Informant says the Christian group that followed this ritual of The Greater Questions of Mary were called the Borborites who according to (Panarion of) Epiphanius of Salmis, Cyprus, the Borborites descended back to the Nicolaitans. Do you agree?
QUESTION #6: Even though the Borborites seem to have been a Christian Gnostic sect, the possibility has been raised that this incident about Jesus from the Greater Questions of Mary was true. Did the Borborites and the Nicolaitans make one or more significant constructive contributions to Early Christianity?
1. Question 3: sorry I don’t know what “that” is that makes Xn church members to be repulsed by Jesus. My sense is that peole who are repulsed by Jesus no longer are membes of their churces.
5. Sounds right but I can’t recall; I haven’t read that chapter in Epiphanius (ch. 26 I think) for a long time; he also calls them the Phibionites and that’s the name I usually give them. I have a translation of the Greater Questions of Mary in The Other Gospels.
6. Are you asking if it really happened that Jesus took Mary Magdalene up on a mountain and while she watched he miraculously extracted a woman from his side, had sex with her, collected his semen in his hand (to consume?), and told Mary that this is something his followers had to do? No, I don’t think that is likely to be historical.
BDEhrman:
What that is that makes Christian church members to be repulsed by Jesus.
Steefen:
You answered that question: collected his semen in his hand to consume and told Mary that this is something his followers had to do.
Question 5: Neal Sendlak/Gnostic Informant said the Borborites followed a ritual related to collecting semen.
Question 6: You’re correcting Neal Sendlak, Gnostic Informant by saying you do not think the Borborites did follow the ritual in the Greater Questions of Mary?
Hopefully, you’ll let Neal know you doubt what he says. Tell him that is not historically accurate.
Steve Campbell, author of Historical Accuracy
I’d suggest you read the account itself. And no, I don’t think they followed these rituals. They are SAID to have done so by their orthodox enemies who were maligning them.
QUESTION #7: Did you discuss the Greater Questions of Mary, the Nicolaitans, and the Borborites in Lost Christianities?
Yup.
Dear Professor,
Will there be a Historical Jesus Course on BSA? I know you did it a long time back on The Great Courses (the best course I’ve heard from you). I hope this course can be done again on BSA with maybe some other scholars after the current Madez’s course.
Yup, we’re planning on it!
That mountain top that Jesus takes folks to for the Transfiguration is Mount Hermon, I think? That has the shrine to Theandrios the god-man ‘that is Rabbos’. I think that it likely represents Jesus as an epithet: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theandrios
I found Theandrios only this week, and neeeever knew that this deity was portrayed alongside Galilee’s Queen Phaesalis’ deity, Dushara, the “God of The Ruler.” The earliest inscription that I can find for Theoandrios is dated to around 0 BCE/O CE. And the early inscribers have high status names, like Koine Greek and also one is an Abgar (think Midyat.)
I’m really glad that you are emphasizing the “secret” nature of Jesus being the Messiah, because to me it seems that secretive instead of aggressive in the bid for a kingdom most aligns with Nabataea.
To compare the quals of a 1/2 “god-man”, the name Herod if meaning “son of a hero” is 1/4 divine (royal) as heros were classically 1/2.
Dr Ehrman; I really enjoyed your 8 lectures on The genius of Mark! Next, I’ll read your 6th edition to the New Testament. What would motivate these early writers of the gospels not to identify themselves as Paul did for example? Were the original authors afraid of persecution from the Romans or the Jewish authorities?
It wouldn’t be that. We don’t know why, ultimately, but my theory about it is that they saw the life of Jesus as the continuation of the history of Israel desribed in the Scriptures, and that entire history (books of Samuel and Kings, and Chronicles) is written anonymously. The point is less that “I’m the authority” and more that “this is what God has done.”
Bart, great post! If the original Christians in Mark’s community felt Jesus became the messiah/Son of God at the resurrection, why would later members of the community believe he was the messiah earlier, during his ministry, that then required the messianic secret explanation? It seems to be an important aspect as the result is an entire book of the Bible that deals with this change of thought (along with other aspects of Jesus’s life, of course). I’d guess that we don’t know why there was a change, but I thought I’d ask.
The great Roman CAtholic biblical scholar, Raymond Brown (arguably the most learned exegete at the end of the 20th century) maintained that Christology developed wihtin the Xn tradition over time, so that the earliest Xns believed Jesus became divine at the resurrectoin, later many of them believed he became divine at his baptism, later many of them came to think he was divine from the moment of his birth, and later many came to think that he was a pre-existent divine being. Different people in the same community could have different ones of these views at different times and many could have different views at the same time. So I don’t hink it’s a matter of linear development or that later members of a community believes what their predecssors did.
Isn’t it your view that Jesus did think he was the messiah and only told his inner circle about this? So in a sense it is historical that he kept it a secret?
Yup.
How do you approach the Gerasene Demoniac (5:1-20) with regard to the secret? This passage is extremely obscure and the plain reading in English appears to contradict the secret. The Oxford Commentary (Barton) is not much help here and seems to be smoothing out some of the uncomfortable aspects. Is the meaning clearer in Greek?
Yeah, it seems to be one of those unexpected exceptions…. Usually in Mark Jesus says “Don’t tell” and they Tell; and at the end the women are told to “Tell” and they don’t tell…
Perhaps the Gerasene Demoniac is treated differently because he’s not a Jew?
Do you think that the messianic secret could be historically accurate to some extent? Calling yourself the messiah has political implications that could get you arrested by rulers who see you as usurping their power. The idea is that Jesus had a public persona that most people saw and a private persona that only his disciples saw. Anything that could get him in trouble stayed within the private persona. It was only when Judas betrayed him by becoming an informant for Caiaphas that it became clear to the priests what Jesus was really thinking and they decided to turn him over to Pilate to avoid any trouble that might lead to a Roman crackdown. Does this sound plausible?
My view is that Jesus did tell his disciples that he would be teh ruling messiah, and that they would rule under him. But he didn’t tell anyone else. I don’t think he was hushing evreryone up the whole time, but just was discreet. One of them spilled the beans for one reason or another, and that’s why Pilate ordered him to be executed for calling himself the king of the Jews.
When enlightenment methodology is applied to Biblical interpretation, it leads to oversimplified conclusions-ie the notion that the ‘messianic secret’ in Mark is merely a narrative device to explain the disciples’ lack of understanding about Jesus’ identity during his life. This perspective neglects more obvious themes and motifs. The OT is replete with instances of God’s heroic figures concealing their true identities, as seen in the typological characters of Moses and David, who prefigure Jesus.
This type of simplistic explanation arises when critics prioritize dismantling the historical aspects of the text over carefully examining its narrative components. By imposing their own agendas on the text, they overlook the richer, more nuanced meaning that can be uncovered through meticulous exegesis/attention to the text’s broader context.
Enoch 62:7 explicitly states that the Messiah’s identity will be hidden from everyone except the elect. Mark’s Gospel suggests that Jesus, the Messiah, deliberately remained hidden, only revealing himself to his disciples at the appointed time. That was to be expected.
The Messianic Secret motif isn’t attempting to retroactively explain disciples earlier lack of comprehension but rather a bid to establish their credibility within the early Christian community by bragging about who recognized him first and who didn’t.
In Mark 1:34 Jesus told the demons not to tell anyone about him “because they knew him to be the Christ.” Fast forward to chapter 8 where Jesus tells the disciples not to tell anyone about him because they knew him to be the Christ. The problem is that the disciples don’t trust that the Messiah should suffer and die. So for Mark, it is demonic for a person NOT to trust in a suffering and dying Messiah. Maybe Mark’s Jesus tells people not to tell about him because they don’t understand YET (not until after he rises from the dead) that the Messiah’s mission is to suffer and die? In the first century, this kind of Messiah would have been the opposite of what the Messiah was expected to do. So, I think Mark is blaming the Jews for the destruction of the temple. Because they did not trust in a DYING Messiah, they chose a FIGHTING Messiah – Barabbas – they chose to fight the physical battle, leading to the fall of the temple. I think the Gerasene demoniac is an exception to the messianic secret simply because he was NOT a Jew. Just my two cents.
“As I pointed out yesterday, the “secrecy” actually doesn’t make any good sense in a number of ways, even in Mark’s Gospel, as a plausible historical event. So what’s going on?”
So you don’t think it’s historical? Or you do? I’m trying to understand what your view is.
Also, since the disciples believed Jesus was the messiah, did that mean they thought he was divine already? That’s why I’m confused about him becoming the Son of God at the resurrection. He’s promising the disciples thrones and saying he’s going to be a king. Those kinds of promises indicate that they thought Jesus was more than just a regular person. Did Jesus think he was the Son of God during his ministry? I thought you said in How Jesus Became God that “son of god” was a generic term for divinity.
Talk to me like I’m 5 because I’m slow.
I think Jesus told his disciples that he was the messiah who would rule God’s kingdom and that they too would rule, but he didn’t spread it arond to others. Judas spilled the beans for one reason or another, and that’s why Pilate condemned him to execution for calling himself “King of the Jews”
I got a copy of Wrede’s book from our university library. If you’re not something of a theologian, it can be tough going. I eventually gave up.
Yeah, it’s pretty heavy duty, not the kind of page turner one might hope for. He’s clearly writing as a scholar for schgolars.
Isn’t Wrede’s Messianic Secret theory outdated?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messianic_Secret
Yes, the specific way he resolved the problem is not widely held any more. But the idea that secrecy is a Markan motif rather than a historical datum continues to be widely held.
BART,
In Mathew 4, is the story of Jesus being tempted by Satan in the wilderness a later addition? And, has Satan been sent by Yahweh to tempt Jesus like he did Job?
No, it’s original to Matthew. You get a very similar version in Luke, and a truncated version in Mark. This is a different understanding of Satan than in Job, where he is one of God’s councillors. By this time in Judaism, Satan is seen as God’s supernatural adversary/enemy who is out to destroy God’s purposes and his people.
Thanks so much for the reply!