In this thread have been arguing that Jesus was decidedly a revolutionary:  he despised the current system (government) (both Roman and Jewish) and hoped for/anticipated its complete overthrow.  But he was not in support of rebellion.  That seems a bit odd, since most revolutionaries are precisely trying to incite either a violent or peaceful coup for a new system to be put in place.

Jesus was different precisely because of his apocalyptic views:  governments were necessarily human institutions, the humans in power were part of a cosmic-wide network of evil and corruption, and the powers ultimately in control (above their human minions) could not be dismantled by human effort.  Only

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