I’ve received an intriguing question about professors of religious studies and the relationship between what we teach and personal religious beliefs.
QUESTION:
Dr. Ehrman, do your colleagues who have strong religious beliefs sometimes get conflicted when teaching some aspects of early Christianity?
RESPONSE:
Now that’s a very interesting question, and to unpack it, and give a response, I need to provide a bit of background of what (I assume) lies behind it. I’ll start with my personal situation then broaden out from there.
Neither of my two teaching positions has been in a religious or denominational school; Rutgers and now UNC Chapel Hill are, of course, research universities. Both institutions are not only secular but also state-supported. Because of the constitutional separation of church and state, people in my position are not allowed to proselytize or promote one particular religion or religious view over another. And yet we are teaching religion. How is that supposed to work?
In the very simplest terms, the way it works is that professors in my position teach *about* religion. My colleagues have various kinds of expertise: some, like me, are historians and/ or experts in literature and literary theory. Some are philologists (e.g., in ancient Semitic or Classical languages). Some are trained as anthropologists. Some work in philosophy, cultural studies and/or critical theory. And so on. What holds us together is not our methodological approaches but our subject matter. And so an expert in Akkadian, another in Hellenistic philosophy, another in Christianity in 16th century Spain, another on village life in modern Tibet, and another on race in America are all in the same department, teaching what they do from the angle they teach it. But all of us focus on the religious histories, writings, beliefs, practices, traditions, cultures of these times and places.
I just happen to be an expert on Christianity in the first three centuries of the Roman empire. And so I teach everything from Jesus and the New Testament up to the time of the emperor Constantine.
So the issue the questioner is asking is this: if we are not allowed to teach our religious beliefs, what happens when what we have to teach actually runs counter to our beliefs?
The short answer, I guess, is that I’ve never known that to happen, at least in my context.
Let me preface the longer answer with a little factoid that will strike many readers as very odd and virtually unbelievable. But it nonetheless is true. In my thirty-six years of university teaching, I have never, ever had a discussion with a colleague about their personal religious beliefs. Not once.
In many instances, I have no way of knowing what a colleague’s personal beliefs or practices. Sometimes I do. Sometimes I’ll know a colleague is Jewish, for example, and even that he/she is an observant Jew (keeps kosher, e.g.) (it can become obvious in some social situations). And occasionally a colleague may say something about “my church.”
Actually, now that I think about it, I think I know the personal beliefs of only one of my colleagues from, say, the past 20 years or so, whom I know for a fact is an atheist (from off-the-cuff comments). Other than that, I really don’t know. Except I am certain that none of them is a Christian, Muslim, or Jewish fundamentalist.
I *suspect* that most of them are agnostic/atheist. But I could be completely wrong. You might be wondering why we never talk about our religious beliefs. The surprising answer, I guess, is that our personal beliefs are completely irrelevant to anything we do professionally. An anthropologist of religion in Japan doesn’t need to be a Buddhist; and even if he or she is, it would have no bearing on his/her research.
As I said, we are experts in the history, writings, cultures, beliefs, practices, etc. etc. of various religions. This is how it works at a research university. Scholars are experts in things. Being an expert in something doesn’t mean you practice it. Or don’t practice it. I have colleagues in other departments who teach Chinese economics, but they are not Marxists; or the history of mid-20th century Germany but they aren’t Nazis; or classical Greek philosophy but they aren’t Aristotelians. Or the history of music and they aren’t in a rock and roll band. Or criminology and they aren’t axe murderers….
So back to the question: what would happen if someone were obligated to teach something that ran contrary to their personal beliefs? I don’t know of that happening in my context – but what about other contexts? What if there were a Bible-believing Christian who taught in an academic context that required her to teach historical-critical approaches to the Bible that maintained the Gospels have contradictions, that Jesus did not actually do or say the things that he is said to have done, that Paul did not write all of the letters that claim to be written by him, and so forth. What would they do?
My sense is that there are very, very few people in that situation. Scholars who hold standard critical views about the Bible hardly ever teach in an evangelical institution; and scholars who cannot uphold the perspectives of critical scholarship because, say, of their fundamentalist views do not teach in places where they would be required to teach the opposite of what they believe. Offhand I can’t think of anyone I know in either situation.
But I HAVE known some people close to the edge of the problem. Most of the time they simply fudge the issue in class. For example, they “teach both sides” of an issue: did Peter really write 2 Peter? They answer: “Well, those who say he did say this, and those who say he did not say that.” If pressed by a student about their view, they might say something like: “My view doesn’t matter: what matters is what *you* think based on the evidence.” Or something like: “You know, I personally think this, but I could see it both ways.” Or something like that.
Interestingly enough, in my experience (which if VERY limited), just now, in this point of history, this is becoming a problem especially in conservative evangelical institutions of higher learning. I know professors in such places, and know *of* others, who are becoming increasingly convinced by critical scholarship on the Bible, and realize, say, that there are contradictions in the Gospels or that something attributed to the life of Jesus in the New Testament did not actually happen. How do they deal with that? Yeah, it’s a problem.
There are a number of cases where the person lets the cat out of the bag. They’ve come to see that their fundamentalist views are wrong, the administration gets wind of it, and they get fired. Ugh.
But others figure out how to toe the line even as their views develop. This is a strange phenomenon happening in some evangelical institutions. I personally know professors in such places who will say in the same sentence: “Yes, Mark and Matthew contradict each other here” AND “Yes, the Bible is inerrant.” Or who will say, “Yes, even though Matthew says this event happened, it did not happen,” AND, in the next sentence, “Yes, Matthew has no mistakes in it.”
You ask: how can they say both things at once? I ask the same thing. In fact I have asked the same thing. Repeatedly. But to no avail. Either because they can’t bring themselves to admit that an error is an error, even if it’s in the Bible; or because they are afraid they will lose their jobs and sacrifice their careers and possibly alienate their families; or because they are so befuddled by it all that they can’t see straight – I don’t know, there may be other answers. But they come up with some kind of fuzzy argument such as “Well, if Matthew knew he was making a mistake, then it’s not really a mistake,” or some such thing. In their view, that allows them to say boldly (in public, in front of an audience) that what “Matthew records Jesus saying here is the opposite of what he really did say” and then say “And yes, Matthew is inerrant.” It’s as if I were to say, the square root of 16 is 5; and someone says, No, you just made a mistake,” and I reply “No it’s not a mistake, because I *know* it’s not right. But the square root of 16 is 5.”
Go figure…..
Cognitive dissonance rears its head in academia. Not at all surprising. I suppose that there are many academics who live their lives compartmentalized into knowledge versus belief. Or are living in two worlds–the real world in which scientific endeavor is the road to knowledge; and the world of belief in which religious fantasy masquerades as knowledge.
So it sounds like you are saying, scholars who believe will, most of the time, teach in a Theological Seminary and those who do not believe will prefer secular Universities. Two questions, 1) Would someone like yourself, with a great amount of research and expertise in Religious studies ever be approached by a non-secular University ? And 2) , alternatively, do you think an atheist/agnostic should be allowed to become a minister/priest in a denominational church ? Thanks.
No, I’m actually not saying that. I know a lot of believers who teach in secular universities; just not mine. But they are not fundamentalists. Most critical scholars of the Bible are in fact believers. As to your questions: 1) yes, I’ve been offered positions at theological institutions that value scholarship; 2) Depends on the denomination, but most of the time, no, if they make their views known.
Bart,
I taught for 35 years at a state owned college, later university, in Pennsylvania. One of my colleagues in Geography/Earth Science was a member of a very conservative fundamentalist church (Assembly of God I believe). I never talked to him about his beliefs since I basically knew what he would tell me. Once when he was interviewed by the school newspaper the stated that he believed that the Earth was approximately 10,000 years old. I never did figure out how he taught the basic earth science course which would have said something about the “Big Bang,” Evolution, etc.
Maybe what he said about it was that it was all bogus!
>”“Matthew records Jesus saying here is the opposite of what he really did say” and then say “And yes, Matthew is inerrant.”
Perhaps a bit of grasping at straws here, but I suppose you could argue that Matthew (or whoever), did include contradictions as a kind of Zen koan meant to stimulate deep thought. Not that I think that’s at all likely, but does anybody make that argument?
Probably! But not these people, who are Bible-believing conservative evangelicals who distrust any views not coming out of Bible-believing conservative evangelizalism. Zen ain’t in their purview….
I recall the situation of Prof. Christopher Rollston at Emmanuel Christian Seminary back in 2012, who was described by his supporters as a widely-appreciated and well-known Biblical scholar and epigrapher. He stated what should be obvious to any careful reader of the Hebrew Bible: some authors expressed views that marginalized women (e.g. the Decalogue is addressed to men and views women as men’s property), and are incompatible with modern values:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-marginalization-of-women-biblical-value-we-dont-like-to-talk-about_b_1833648
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/religionprof/2012/10/in-support-of-christopher-rollston.html
(We can say the same about slavery, genocide; shall we say also homosexuality). Saying that the Bible expressed views which were morally acceptable in its original historical context, but unacceptable were they ported to modern-day, is not necessarily incompatible with biblical inerrancy – provided one presupposes a degree of moral relativism.
Fortunately, perhaps due to outflow of support from other academics and former students, he reached agreement with the seminary to resign voluntarily. He subsequently got professorship at the more prestigious George Washington University:
https://robertcargill.com/2012/12/31/winners-and-losers-in-the-emmanuel-christian-seminary-scandal/
Then there is the case of Michael Licona who was forced out of Southern Evangelical Seminary, with the old-school inerrantists Norman Geisler and Albert Mohler as leading critics, for remarks made in his 2010 book “The resurrection of Jesus: a new historiographical approach” (IVP):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_R._Licona#Academic_career
Interesting, thanks. As a graduate of a college in the Restoration tradition, I know that they commonly grant “tenure” to professors with the caveat that the deal breaks down if the professor says anything about scripture that threatens alumni funding. I personally knew one such and have heard of many others.
The remarks concern the resurrection of the saints in Matthew. Interestingly, the well-known evangelical apologists, William Lane Craig, J.P. Moreland and Gary Habermas, came to Licona’s defence, not least because Licona’s approach to the resurrection is beneficial for those apologists’ apologetical agenda. Off top of my head, from Licona’s guest posts on this blog and in his debates, I think he maintains inerrancy of scripture while acknowledging the event described in Matthew did not happen, by arguing that it was a literary convention common in antiquity, and would have been understood by the readers as such. Hence the author was neither lying nor making a mistake.
There is also the case of Peter Enns who was forced out at Westminster Theological Seminary in 2009:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Enns#Suspension_from_Westminster_Theological_Seminary
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/peterenns/2013/01/3-things-i-would-like-to-see-evangelical-leaders-stop-saying-about-biblical-scholarship/
Some conservative evangelicals, the likes of G.K. Beale, are irked by evangelical scholars who want to be taken seriously by scholarship while paying lip service to inerrancy:
https://www.amazon.com/Erosion-Inerrancy-Evangelicalism-Responding-Challenges-ebook/dp/B001FA0RXO
“The Erosion of Inerrancy in Evangelicalism: Responding to New Challenges to Biblical Authority (2008)”
I think the fierciest attacks against these evangelical scholars, who want to have their cake and eat it, come not from historical-critical scholars, but their own brethen evangelicals with whom they have much in common.
It is in the nature of religion, past and present, that members of a religious community have the loudest arguments with dissenters within their own ranks. One can think of Pharisees versus the early Jewish Christians.
Nowadays, the notion of biblical inerrancy can be understood in so many ways that it can be made compatible with pretty much anything:
https://www.amazon.com/Five-Views-Biblical-Inerrancy-Counterpoints/dp/0310331366
“Five Views on Biblical Inerrancy (2013)” with contributions by Albert Mohler, Peter Enns, Michael Bird, Kevin Vanhoozer, John Franke.
I think serious scholars like Bart should give the likes of Michael Licona as much leeway as possible. Provided they don’t say anything incompatible with well established findings of scholarship, let them say their views are compatible with *their* notion of inerrancy. After all, biblical inerrancy is a theological doctrine, so it should be defined by members of the faith community, rather than by outsiders. Bart’s primary goal as a scholar should be to encourage all evangelicals to take critical scholarship seriously, rather than make them feel they have to choose between scholarship or their religious identity which is committed to the theology of biblical inerrancy.
The last paragraph of your post, Dr Ehrman, sounds like some scholars come perilously close to exercising ‘doublethink’, (the ability to hold two contradictory ideas at the same time and believe both of them, a sort of extreme type of ambivalence). This was a concept invented by George Orwell in his dystopian novel, 1984. I would add though that many people in various lines of work often have to suppress deeply held political views to keep their jobs. I remember being very surprised to learn much later that one of my childhood history teachers was a communist as you would never have guessed from his very impartial style of teaching. Once again, a fascinating post. Thank you.
Yup. And a great novel. I saw in on stage a couple of years ago as well.
You can search for “statement of belief” or “statement of faith” with the names of evangelical colleges to find their statements. Not to pick on Bryan College in Tennessee, but to serve as just one example, its statement is here: Our Mission (scroll down the page find it). They preface their statement with:
“The college charter states that no sectarian tests or statement of belief are to be imposed on any student. It also specifies that anyone serving as a trustee, officer, or member of the faculty and staff must subscribe to the Statement of Belief, which appears below. The College’s religious position and control, educational philosophy, and community life standards are consequential outcomes of the Statement of Belief.”
Some colleges require one to reaffirm their statement at intervals; some annually, some less frequently. That could prove a source of concern should one’s own beliefs change over time. Further and deeper study often prompts one to revise an appreciation of something. My sense is that institutions vary in terms of how rigorously they police adherence to their statements, but there are some difficult cases. Perhaps the best known recent case remains that of Pete Enns at Westminster Theological Seminary.
So interesting that you posted this just now. I preached on hell yesterday and what I had to say leaned heavily on what I’ve learned from Heaven and Hell, as well as Life after Death by Alan Segal. It was an eye-opener for many congregants and resulted in stimulating questions and discussions after the service. I find that most of my congregation is able to appreciate the challenges to evangelical-like traditional views. I may have pushed the envelope though with the title of the sermon: One Hellova Sermon
I am grateful to be a member of a denomination that entertains the full spectrum of perspectives on biblical authority, but I have often found myself wrestling with what I would preach versus what I know, and have left the pulpit on several occasions with my fingers crossed that I hadn’t broken anyone’s faith in my effort to expand their understanding of scripture.
I’m planning a four part sermon series on Judgment Day for Advent, based mainly on the same two sources sighted above. Do you have any advice on that before I take the plunge?
Yes, Segal’s book is the best full study. Do you know my recent book Heaven and Hell?
What might be more common is pastors who are becoming increasingly convinced by critical scholarship on the Bible and realize that there are contradictions in the Gospels and that something attributed to the life of Jesus in the New Testament did not actually happen. They then have the issue of preaching sermons that the congregation expect to hear but goes against the pastors’ new beliefs.
But now dr E I have many times referenced the statement you made in misquoting Jesus, in that ministers go to seminaries and learn everything from jedp to q to deutero Isaiah’s etc and then leave it all on the stage as they walk across at commencement. Consequently people are ignorant of what the Bible says and completely in the dark about what scholars have said for 200 years about it.
In my personal experience, I grow up in a conservative bible toting family, go to university then run out of time and money at a seminary before I finish my mDiv, but my views have certainly changed over the years and what I teach has also changed. It has to. How could I teach something I don’t believe?
Surely at some point in your career you crossed a similar bridge? In the transition from evangelical to agnostic you one day said, “I can’t teach that anymore?”
No, not in my professional teaching; I have always taught in secular research universities and so have never taught anything connected with my personal religious beliefs. When I was a Christian I was teaching standard scholarship.
Didn’t you ever teach/preach at any churches? Surely you did. I remember you said that as a believer you taught and believed baptism was “And outward show of an inward grace” or something like that, And when you started to look at the Bible critically you saw that’s not how Paul presented it in Romans chapter 6 etc.
You never had to make a conscious decision in respect to any evangelistic endeavors you may (or may not have) engaged in as a believer?
Yes, I certainly preached and taught in churches. And I never preached or taught anything I didn’t think or believe.
You happen to believe what is believed by the government and its many employees. To borrow your example — you believe that the square root of 16 is four, not five. Isn’t it fair to say that you teach what you believe each and every day? And what you believe is not at odds with your employer. Not to condemn you at all. It’s just that, save for the adherence to objective science, you’re no Galileo. Galileo asserted his beliefs despite opposition from the ruling authorities. You assert your beliefs with the full support of the ruling authorities.
I’m not sure what you’re saying. Are you saying that I think the square root of 16 is four because some government official has brainwashed me into thinking so? Uh, no, actually, I can do the math. But yes, I do absolutely believe what experts tell me. I really do think the universe we occupy started with a big bang 13.8 billion years ago. I can’t do *that* math, but there are many thousands of people out there who can, they all agree more or less, and I trust them. As opposed to the billions out there who can’t do the math and have an uninformed opinion. But none of these authorities is part of our government.
I just learned about a man called pseudo-Dionysius – is he within your area of expertise? From what I could find on Wikipedia (always a reliable source) he seems an interesting person. Could you write a post about him? How do we know his books are forgeries, for instance.
Yup, an interestinng figure. Actually outside my realm of expertise slightly. We don’t know anything about him personally; but his book is a forgery because there is no way on God’s Green earth that the kind of neo-platonic system he embraces could have been set forth by the guy Paul converted in Athens four or five hundred years earlier.
Cognitive dissonance – the basic problem common to all revealed religions. Intellectually they know it’s got flaws, but emotionally (or because they get paid to do so) they can’t admit it. The ability of human beings to hold two contradictory thoughts simultaneously helps make religions successful.
Hello, Dr. Ehrman,
Do you know Dr. Luke Timothy Johnson? He seems to lean towards more conservative views-interpretations of the bible. I have a course by him on The Great Courses called ‘The Story of the Bible’ where he covers the formation of the bible, a little bit about its authors, and some of how its interpreted. He disagrees with mainline scholarship in some places (for example, he thinks all of the letters attributed to Paul were written by him or under his guidance), but when he does that, he tells you something like ‘the majority opinion is this’ and adds ‘however, I believe the minority position’. So, he weighs in, but he also tells you that where he weighs in is not what most believe. I appreciate that he makes the distinction. I wonder how that goes over in his in-person classes.
Yes I do, and yes he does. He’s a very fine scholar and a superb teacher. And we disagree on a lot!
Your last (square root) sentence and your several citations, this manner of “thinking,” is an exemplar of what Harry Frankfurt discusses in his terrific book, “On Bullshit.”
After reading Triumph. I don’t think we give enough credit or understand what Christianity has given us as Westerners. Most young people have no clue how ingrained Christianity is in their thinking. What would the West be like today had a Roman emperor like Constantine not been converted?
It’s a question I reflect on in my book Triumph of Christianity. That, by the way, is one of my books that you probably would not have much to disagree with, I should think.
I am currently a campus pastor and hospice chaplain in a long term care setting and I struggle with this every day as a Humanist. I am transitioning to a new career in Social Work, but I still have three years of school left and can’t afford to quit my job with a mortgage and a family. Many scholars and preachers deal with this struggle on a daily basis. I’m so thankful you have a setting where this isn’t really an issue. Grateful to join the blog by the way, this is my first comment!
Good luck to you! I know it can be difficult, but do keep an eye on the goal at the end!
I practiced ”double-think” during my happy teenage years as a Jehovah’s Witness: I was a normal boy together with my secular father and sister as well as in school and with comrades. When my JW-mom and I went to the Kingdom Hall or out to preach at the doors, however, I was a happy Christian fundamentalist who was convinced that Armageddon would come in 1975.
In 1972, I started to doubt, and the turning point came at a door where a nice lady asked me polite questions. I had answers to them all and would normally be proud about that because I had learnt all the answers about everything. But suddenly, I heard myself saying things that I did not believe. It was as if what I said came from one part of my mind and that when my words went into my ears these words were analysed by another part of my mind. And suddenly I felt dizzy, even nauseous – I couldn’t get the words out any longer.
I have never been so close to a mental break-down in whole my life…