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  1. Jana  January 5, 2018

    I wondered if this would be of interest (in case it was missed in the NYT): A Fragile Biblical Text Gets A Virtual Read

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/05/science/biblical-codes-morgan-library.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

  2. Tobit  March 23, 2018

    Hi Bart!

    Off-topic question: you’ve said Paul believed Jesus was an angel. Would it not make more sense for him to believe Jesus was a unique divine-human judge akin to Enoch in 1 Enoch 37-71 or Melchizedek in 1Q13?

    • Bart
      Bart  March 24, 2018

      Possibly. Though Enoch was believed to have become an angel. I think Jesus was one before appearing in the world (for Paul)

      • Tobit  March 24, 2018

        That’s true for later jewish mysticism, but the Enochic Parables describe Enoch as a pre-existant divine Son of Man or Chosen One

        1 Enoch 48:2,6; 71:14 (G. Nickelsburg translation)

        “And in that hour that son of man was named in the presence of the Lord of Spirits … For this (reason) he was chosen and hidden in his presence, before the world was created and forever”

        “And he came to me and greeted me with his voice and said to me, “You (are) that Son of Man who was born for righteousness”

        Also, the divine Melchizedek of 11Q13 appears to have a unique station above the angels, acting as God’s judge or deputy, similarly to Jesus in Paul’s eschatalogical passages.

        11Q13.2.13-14 (F. Garcia Martinez translation)

        “But, Melchizedek will carry out the vengeance of God’s judgements [on this day, and they shall be freed from the hands] of Belial and from the hands of all the sp[irits of his lot.] To his aid (shall come) all «the gods of [justice»; he] is the one [who will prevail on this day over] all the sons of God, and he will pre[side over] this [assembly.]”

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