I must admit I was rather taken aback by the following:
“In Jewish tradition,” said the Israeli-born Loeb, “We are waiting for the Messiah to arrive and bring a better future … I consider the possibility of the Messiah being extraterrestrial. Having a visitor from another planet outside the solar system could be a wake-up call for humanity.”
The arrival of superhuman intelligence at Earth could fulfill the longing for a ** you do not have permission to see this link ** in Jewish eschatology, ushering peace, justice and prosperity on Earth. The agency of superhuman intelligence could either be in the form of Alien Intelligence or Artificial Intelligence, both abbreviated as AI.
A lot of Jews think that the Messiah might arrive from Brooklyn. I think that, the Messiah will arrive from an exoplanet.
“It’s almost as if you’re purposely refusing to understand,” he groaned. “I’ve been talking about Solaris the whole time, solely about Solaris. If the truth is hard to swallow, it’s not my fault. Anyhow, after what you’ve already been through, you ought to be able to hear me out!
We take off into the cosmos, ready for anything: for solitude, for hardship, for exhaustion, death. Modesty forbids us to say so, but there are times when we think pretty well of ourselves. And yet, if we examine it more closely, our enthusiasm turns out to be all sham.
We don’t want to conquer the cosmos, we simply want to extend the boundaries of Earth to the frontiers of the cosmos. For us, such and such a planet is as arid as the Sahara, another as frozen as the North Pole, yet another as lush as the Amazon basin. We are humanitarian and chivalrous; we don’t want to enslave other races, we simply want to bequeath them our values and take over their heritage in exchange. We think of ourselves as the Knights of the Holy Contact.
This is another lie.
We are only seeking Man. We have no need of other worlds. We need mirrors. We don’t know what to do with other worlds. A single world, our own, suffices us; but we can’t accept it for what it is. We are searching for an ideal image of our own world: we go in quest of a planet, of a civilization superior to our own but developed on the basis of a prototype of our primeval past. At the same time, there is something inside us which we don’t like to face up to, from which we try to protect ourselves, but which nevertheless remains, since we don’t leave Earth in a state of primal innocence. We arrive here as we are in reality, and when the page is turned and that reality is revealed to us – that part of our reality which we would prefer to pass over in silence – then we don’t like it any more.”
– Stanislaw Lem, Solaris
Steefen said
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Steefen said
One takeaway: You have to explain anomalies! You cannot make authoritative statements without explanations.That’s the mission of science, to explain our observations. But we’re dealing with observations of one of the very first objects of this kind. So it may take some time and additional objects of this sort before we can come up with the best explanations. In the meantime, while we still don’t have enough experience with these phenomena, there’s no reason to jump to unsubstantiated conclusions. Surely, you understand and agree with this, right, Steefen?
Avi is jumping to unsubstantiated conclusions? So, now you’re smarter than Avi in his own field? Avi has carefully used a method that is quite logical and sober.
Is Avi a planetary scientist? I thought he was an astrophysicist.
What Avi did was observed information and put the information in two categories: exhibiting characteristics of the other two interstellar comets and not exhibiting characteristics of the other two interstellar comets (or interstellar comets–not necessarily interstellar comets related to our solar system)–anomalies.
If there are too many characteristics that do not fit the description of an ordinary comet, it may not be an ordinary comet.
Should we not call it an interstellar comet if there are too many characteristics not of a comet / anomalies?
Interstellar comet can be a placeholder label but after a certain number of anomalies, it would be SILLY to keep calling it a comet. Recently, I heard Avi use the term interstellar OBJECT
NOT COMET.
Steefen said
… Should we not call it an interstellar comet if there are too many characteristics not of a comet / anomalies?
Interstellar comet can be a placeholder label but after a certain number of anomalies, it would be SILLY to keep calling it a comet. Recently, I heard Avi use the term interstellar OBJECT
NOT COMET.
However, one does have to be careful that one does not include in the count of “anomolies” things like not having an observable tail or coma after a tail and coma was observed … it does matter not only what the “count” of the anomolies are, but also what the content is. I mean, if the anomoly is “of the three intersteller comets we have observed, the composition of this one is not in between the composition of the other two” is not a “this does not seem like a comet” anomoly, but rather a “this is not very surprising when you have seen two examples of something and are just now seeing a third.”
Robert:
We’re just not jumping to unwarranted conclusions.
Steefen:
Reserving calling something a comet or reserving not calling something a comet is not “jumping” to unwarranted conclusions.
Now, if “we” are ignoring Congressional testimony and CIA remote viewing communication capabilities, there is no valid judgement as to what is warranted or unwarranted. Having investigations and hearings are very helpful in the determination of what is warranted.
Robert:
Take a cue from Avi Loeb. He has not formed any conclusions yet.
Steefen:
He has communicated/slated anomalies. I’ve heard/listened to what he has communicated.
Do not shove the anomalies under the carpet of traditional thinking.
But who is doing this? Certainly not the actual scientists studying the comet. Avi is hinting around at a bunch of possibilities and then covering his ass by saying he has not made a determination. He is enabling a controversy where none exists. We’re still at the data gathering phase of the operation.
Reserving calling something a comet or reserving not calling something a comet is not “jumping” to unwarranted conclusions.
But when all the evidence so far points to 3I Atlas being a comet, however unusual, why not say so? Unless you have an obscurantist agenda.
…ignoring Congressional testimony and CIA remote viewing communication capabilities…
Well it depends on who’s testifying. Most if not all of the UFO testimony should be ignored. And any resources devoted to remote viewing by government agencies is a complete waste of money because the idea is bullsh*t.
The videos in Post 336 reveal nothing more than the usual conspiratorial fare:
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
THE TRUTH IS TERRIFYING!
There is nothing more I want to do in the morning than to tune into such channels. Where else would I be informed that humans are being sent to alien worlds through biochemical portals? Or that the U.S. government has admitted that free energy technology exists?
Perhaps, more eye-opening than all the others is the one that says Human history makes NO sense and that WE NEED TO OPEN OUR EYES AND FACE REALITY. Downright hilarious.
Aliens, I see people have talked about the Arcturians as one of the most advanced races in the Milky Way Galaxy.
Edgar Cayce talked about the Acturians.
There is a video: “The Arcturians are one of the most advanced races in the universe” – Edgar Cayce
YouTube Channel: Gaia
Could the moon be a hollow-bodied construct that contains a hidden message encoding the deeper mysteries of our universe and life on Earth? Our team of researchers examine evidence that suggests our moon is of artificial origin, intentionally placed in exact orbit by advanced civilizations in ancient times. With recent discoveries from NASA and the European Space Agency, the lunar enigmas have only compounded.
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