Hi Porphyry! I can tell you what I think it entails. I spent years in a Sufi community but wasn’t taught channeling – we did zikhr and learned the world’s religions and yogas. Also I generally have never channeled on long-form information until now.
I do the Abe-Hicks style of channeling/intention-setting, of finding the feeling of what I want. I tend to have my time taken up by this because it takes a lot of craft to navigate the world I was born into (income-light for American standards, and sensitive but not like, depressed.) This is how I’m currently doing it, because my next addition to the thread will be comparing the Crucifixion to the Sar Puhi in sequential order (which this isn’t) – the lunar eclipse (Acts quoting Joel), the shining garment, the royal garment, the seamless garment, the slap, the mute substitute, the crown of natural spiky materials, the reed, the anodyne, the farmer (gardener?), etc.
1. I set the space by asking in a clear way that one might generate a prompt for AI.
2. And I’ll probably use a Sanaya Roman guided meditation.
3. Sometimes it’s just easier to find the feeling-space of the information but I’m not just typing out content. I use multiple AIs to explore interesting directions hot potato style and triple-check facts. I’m very careful to not overwhelm my system and I take lots of supplements.
The persona in the past life readings that my birthday matches (and this birthday is said to be how she will be recognized) is uniquely a little more spirit than most to begin with.
At some point yeah. Sufi as in they had the legitimate darshans and lineages as far as I can tell, buuuut they were American white people. There was no dervishing.
I used Gemini further on the Star Wars names:
• Leia Organa = Organa means “sense instrument of knowledge”, ie GNOSIS.
• Padme Amidala = Padma in Sanskrit means LOTUS, Amida is the Buddha of Everlasting LIGHT that sits on the lotus: ** you do not have permission to see this link **
The l, like L-eia, might add divinization?
• Qi-Gong Jinn = Qigong means “life energy cultivation” as a Chinese spiritual practice. Jinn is “genie/spirit” in Arabic.
Yoda = (imo this is likely) Yoga
Admiral Akbar = Akbar “Greatest” in Arabic
Millennium Falcon : the “king-bird” that flys the hero and his twin to battles in “Hymn of the Pearl.”
So Eastern names seem to be the Light Side afaik. There,’s also Luke = “Light-giving” but it could be a self-insert of Lucas (George Lucas).
Middle ground:
• Rey Palpatine/Skywalker = imo Ray (as in light) but imo probably consciously stacking with the royal Latin ‘rey’.
Then the stock baddies have easy-to-understand negative Western meanings:
• Emperor Palpatine. Portmanteau, the root of PALPATATE with the meaning ‘to manipulate’ + PALATINE being the Roman Empire hq.
Darth Vader (as in-vader, but also father), Darth Sidious, Darth Maul, Darth Plagueis, Darth Nihilis. Darth imo is likely a way of saying ‘Dark’, because Star Wars likes to hammer on the Light side/Dark side dualism.
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Oh look the Star Wars deity Nabu is now outright for whom the Naboo are named for in cannon:
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I did a random search on YouTube for 3I/ATLAS and got about what you would expect. Jeepers! A veritable deluge of clickbait sh*te. Are all these folks going to do follow-ups a year from now admitting how wrong they were? Even Avi is doing a hard back peddle now. Imagine if that was all you ever watched! Meanwhile NASA has not panicked –
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Baby space Jesus = Grogu
• Mandalorian = Manda, meaning knowledge/GNOSIS
• Grogu = Gorgla/Gurgla d-Nurha, the “Sphere/Vault of Light” in Mandaeanism. Grogu is defined by his little sphere pram that he travels in. It’s the barrier designed to protect the pure soul from the world.
“The Spiritual Message Hidden in Star Wars”
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He is making a very modern case for spirituality over organized religion,” ** you do not have permission to see this link ** in The Weekly Standard, a conservative magazine.
Compare Gnosticism:
These diverse Gnostic groups generally emphasized personal spiritual knowledge (gnosis) above the authority, traditions, and proto-orthodox teachings of organized religious institutions.
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George Lucas, the creator of “Star Wars,” says he wanted to do more than entertain the masses. He wanted to introduce young Americans to spiritual teachings through “new myths” for our globalized, pluralistic millennium.
All my bolding for emphasis.
Easily the most culturally impactful film franchise in the entire Earth and no one realizes the extent to which it’s iterated gnosticism. Just me. It’s not just syncretizing all the world’s religions into some religion soup, they’re slotted as either pro or against the Gnostics.
“I see ‘Star Wars’ as taking all the issues that religion represents and trying to distill them down into a more modern and accessible construct,” Lucas has said. “I wanted to make it so that young people would begin to ask questions about the mystery.” [my emphasis.]
Gnosticism is a mystery cult.
This is a true story – Luke Skywalker (Mark) once invited me to his trailer at night (not on Star Wars set), and once we got in there the lights were off but there was moonlight through the window. Not what I was expecting.
He quick-reflex closed the door. Not what I was expecting. And as my eyes were adjusting he was as close in front of me as he could be, staring into my eyes for what felt like a minute, maybe it was 30 seconds. Finally he said with profound drama, “You ARE the green-eyed Empress…” Like he just knew how to make the most wonderful impression. Then his name was being called, and we left and that was that.
(edited for accuracy like usual)
Since the original purpose of this here thread was how space exploration and the discovery of alien life might impact our religious ideas this won’t be too far off subject I hope.
Behold! (these images courtesy of the JWST and NASA who still haven’t panicked as far as I can tell.)
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I picked these images not simply because of their almost indescribable beauty but because of what they represent.
The first image, the protoplanetary system ** you do not have permission to see this link **, depicts the formation of a new solar system, visual confirmation of the latest theories about planet formation, including the formation of our very own solar system.
The second image, a protostar within dark cloud ** you do not have permission to see this link ** is visual confirmation of star formation, including the very star around which we hurtle. This image is not of a star but the fetus of a star yet to be born.
Now if you’re like me and have creationists in your circle of family or friends you might wish to show them these images and point out that “creation” did not end, but is ongoing, and as far as we can observe, through completely natural processes. If they scoff, simply present them with the information and inform them that they can investigate further to whatever degree they might wish. The utility of science, unlike revelation, is that we don’t have to take anyone’s word for it. And as Spinoza demonstrated, the proper response to these wonders is not worship, but awe – and curiosity!
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I love the idea of an ongoing creation.
Perhaps it’s just my connection but the first two links never loaded.
I did an image search for them, and they really are spectacularly beautiful.
I think of the stars like gardens of flowers that never stop blooming. One interesting factoid is that the protostar in the second image is visible only because, unlike Hubble, the JWST’s main camera is infrared. To the Hubble, focusing on visible light, the protostar is invisible!
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Stephen said
BJH1960 said
I love the idea of an ongoing creation.
Perhaps it’s just my connection but the first two links never loaded.
I did an image search for them, and they really are spectacularly beautiful.
I think of the stars like gardens of flowers that never stop blooming. …
If I understand correctly, partly that’s because it’s still springtime … we are supposedly early in the evolution of the Universe, and as we get further on it may taper off.
Here are some sites that should be accessible since the JWST is a joint effort between NASA and the European Space Agency –
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Sorry to have to say it but these days I always go to the ESA site first. Check out the images available for free download in multiple sizes and resolution. (There are even some photos that combine both JWST and Hubble images and you can scroll between them for unusual views.)
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The STScI is located in Baltimore, Maryland, operated by the Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy. Because this site is run by Academics it’s great for news about ongoing and upcoming research. AURA also coordinates the data releases from dozens of studies so if you wanna know what’s happening this is the place to go.
As far as the latest news, the annual meeting of the venerable American Astronomical Society (AAS) is taking place even as we speak in Phoenix, Arizona. High on the agenda is an update on the status of the HST. After recent gyroscope failures Hubble is down to just one functional gyroscope. Barring some unforeseen emergency it should last another decade or so when atmospheric drag will create a serious threat as Hubble’s orbit slowly lowers. So far NASA has rejected plans to re-boost, citing the danger of such an attempt and an institutional focus on “maximizing current science return”. (I will refrain from any political comments.) What we have to look forward to currently is either “letting her drop where she may” or some attempt at a controlled de-orbit. Most of the human race won’t even notice Hubble’s demise unless it lands in their backyard but on that day I will mourn.
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That shows how science is hampered. Avi is saying he does not have all the facts so he can do a thorough analysis.
The actual scientists involved are using the facts to make a thorough analysis. Avi is scrambling to keep his name out there in public.
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Being interested in both science and religion, and the ways the two interact (or not) this subject retains its fascination. Speculation seems to naturally divide into two paths.
1) What effect would contact with aliens have on traditional faiths?
2) How would alien contact effect future religious expression?
Here are a couple short videos to inspire thinking along these lines. The second video is from a Christian believer who certainly recognizes a potential competitor when he sees it.
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I’m going to focus on Christianity because this is the tradition I know best and the one out of which I sprang. The Abrahamic religions in general stand in a particular relationship with secular science because they rely on certain historical claims not applicable to most of the religions of the East.
For example, while Buddhists privilege a historical figure named Gautama, it’s recognized that every age has its own Buddha, and the focus is on praxis. Being a Buddhist means following the teachings not accepting historical claims. If it turned out that Gautama was a myth it doesn’t bear on the fact that the teachings certainly exist. So it follows that the octopoid entities living in the oceans on a planet orbiting Zeta Reticuli could convert to Buddhism quite easily. (In fact I can see where Buddhism might be especially attractive to sapient ocean dwelling creatures in a way denied to alien land fauna, always scurrying about. Who can say that our own earthly jellyfish, forever floating, are not already in a constant state of deep meditation, Buddhas all?)
To make my own prejudices explicit, I think that the fundamental worldview of science and the fundamental worldview of Christianity are profoundly incompatible. Note that I speak not simply of divergent “facts” and opposing “truth” claims but of an elemental way of perceiving the world. I prefer science over religion precisely because its worldview most closely resembles the reality in which I find myself, not because it knows everything or has all the answers. Foundationally the difference is how they look at the world.
Also it needs to be pointed out that our perceptions of how alien contact would work itself out are largely based on psychological projections of our own needs and desires onto the cosmos. I’m hardly the first person to make this point; I always reference the Polish writer Stanislaw Lem and his now sixty year old (!) novel ** you do not have permission to see this link **. (Be sure to get the updated, superior Bill Johnston translation.)
In the novel, Lem describes the contact between humans and an alien, in this case a sentient ocean that covers the majority of the surface of the planet Solaris. (I should point out that humans assume the ocean is intelligent because it exhibits behaviors that we associate with intelligence.) But how do you contact an intelligent ocean? Where is any common frame of reference? How can we contact the truly Other? The novel describes an ambiguously “successful” attempt at such contact.
Much western Science Fiction takes what I will call the ** you do not have permission to see this link ** approach, imagining a universe peopled with varying alien races at more or less the same level of technological sophistication. But such aliens are all projections. There are militarists and pacifists, cutthroat capitalists and communists. The occasional appearance of aliens vastly more advanced are little different. They are our dreams of ultimate good or ultimate evil. This is good for a film budget; better to dress up actors in rubber masks than try to create something truly alien. And it enables the producers to tell stories relevant to their audience.
Fine. But reality won’t be like that. We are limited by having only the single example of ourselves from which to speculate. Might it turn out that what we call religion, or some kind of spiritual consciousness, is merely a parochial aspect of our own specific evolutionary path? Look at it this way. Humans are a social species that spontaneously organizes itself into pack hierarchies. The family. The tribe. The King and his Court. God and His divine assembly?
One thing seems clear. Any religious expression that privileges the position of humans in the universe must seriously be questioned as a result of alien contact. Doesn’t Christianity assume our privileged place? Paul claims that the cosmos itself is imprisoned by demonic forces until the Parousia. Does anyone think the octopoids of Zeta Reticuli will come visiting, expectant of the imminent Parousia?
Religion has indeed shown itself culturally adaptable over the millennia. But might alien contact be a meal too big to digest? What if the aliens have strong stable civilizations but express absolutely no religious sentiment whatsoever? (See James Blish’s ** you do not have permission to see this link **
Fun speculations but projections all onto a cosmos that may have no resemblance to us at all.
In considering the influence that an encounter with alien life might have on religion you have to anticipate another response than skepticism and doubt, and that of course is worship. I suspect a substantial number of earth folk will be tempted to look on an alien encounter the same way they would look at an encounter with the divine. Going all the way back to the psychologist ** you do not have permission to see this link **, commentators have noticed the similarities between the attitudes of UFO believers and religious devotees. Aliens are seen, not only as biological entities, but as sources of wisdom and understanding and even, revelation. And many accounts of UFO experiences resemble nothing so much as religious visions.
The difference is that ancient religion was couched in mythic terms. The UFO encounter is presented in scientific terms. The revelation no longer comes from Heaven but from travelers in space. Technological superiority has replaced magical power. But what else would we expect? The traditional religions all appeared within cultural contexts that we no longer share. To the degree to which a UFO religion is possible it will come out of a context that we do share.
I’ve discussed currently existing UFO religions a bit already so I’m not going to rehash it. Most have cult-like qualities. It’s hard to see them capturing the interest of millions of followers over vast periods of time like the traditional religions. (People who keep totals observe that for all their media presence, Scientology boasts only between 25,000 to 50,000 active, committed members world-wide.) Usually these groups flourish for a bit and then go out in some spectacularly messy way.
Anyway, no YouTube videos this time. A couple of books by academics who have studied the UFO phenomenon, let’s call them sympathetic non-believers, who realize that all this is not about Them. It’s about Us.
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