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Scholar Bart Ehrman asks What do you think of the God Hypothesis? Feb. 26, 2025
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Steefen
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March 4, 2025 - 1:16 pm

What is Comment 134 ? ? ? ! ! !

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Steefen
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March 4, 2025 - 1:53 pm

Video: Origin of humanity: Who brings the moon? Who created human?

The Moon’s current position is not normal.

There is a Roche Limit.

There is a Hill Sphere.

The Moon is moving away from the Earth.

In the past, the Moon may have appeared larger than the Sun when viewed from the Earth.

The Moon was not mentioned in the past before flood myths.

SPECULATION:

4 civilizations before the current civilization.

Interesting: Enki and his sister have a snake like lower body. Also see Chinese mythology Fuxi and Nuwa. They, too, have human upper bodies and snake lower bodies. BOOM.

In Chinese mythology, Fuxi and Nuwa are a brother and sister who are believed to be the first humans and the creators of civilization.

According to one myth, Fuxi and Nuwa were the only survivors of a great flood.
They used clay to create human figures, which they brought to life with divine help. BOOM.

(Well I have to add this to the Atrahasis section of the 2nd edition of my book.

Two books about them are Nuwa and Fuxi: Marriage and Creation Deities and Fuxi and Nuwa: The Divine Scribes.)

Igiggi: lower gods.Watchers.

Rebellion? Angels rebelling? That’s the Igiggi.

Prometheus and Athena created humanity.

This video is AMAZING. BRAVO.

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Robert
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March 4, 2025 - 3:42 pm
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Colin Milton

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March 4, 2025 - 3:57 pm

Comment 134 is a criticism of evolutionary theory. There’s not any evidence of any species slowly evolving into another species. Frogs and fish. A tadpole kinda looks like a fish but it’s not becoming a fish, and frogs aren’t returning to becoming fish, and fish aren’t evolving to become frogs. Ironically the more I had studied evolutionary theory in college the less I believed it and the less I believed it could occur without a God or human influence.

We’re not finding any fish with tiny frog legs on it anywhere.

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Colin Milton

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March 4, 2025 - 4:07 pm

That God doesn’t exist is not an idea yet until there is Evolutionary Theory to explain it. If someone doesn’t believe that God exists I don’t see any other option other than Evolutionary Theory.

Holographic Universe and Computer Simulation Universe still require a God that created it.

One option is that God created the Universe but then ceased to exist afterwards so today we have no evidence of the existence of God. God did exist then, but God does not exist now.

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Colin Milton

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March 4, 2025 - 4:29 pm

την γην

Perhaps we have misunderstood Genesis 1:1 LXX
Εν αρχη εποιησεν ο Θεος τον ουρανον και την γνη

Exodus 13:11 LXX
και εσται ως αν εισαγαγη σε Κυριος ο Θεος σου εις την γην Χαναναιων

Exodus 13:11 KJV translates την γην as “the land”.
Genesis 1:1 KJV translates την γην as “the Earth.”

God made the visible sky and the land in origin.
(It doesn’t mention the rest of the Universe, nor how the Earth came to be there in the first place.)

There you go. Begin Big Bang Theory to explain how the Earth came to be there before God made the visible sky and the land.

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Colin Milton

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March 4, 2025 - 4:58 pm

Correction
Subject, verb, indirect object, direct objects.

God made in an origin the visible sky and the land.

In an origin as: A location and time.

Singular, but not the only αρχη which would have used the Definite Article the. Suggesting a dative plural αρχαις did also exist ην.
Dative case clause without definite article the. πας adjective for everything is not in the verse.

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Colin Milton

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March 4, 2025 - 5:00 pm

I need rhyme and reason to continue looking into Big Bang Theory without have the Genesis 1 cannon pointed at me. I reckon my translation to be good enough reason to do that.

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March 4, 2025 - 5:08 pm

Comment 143

Aww Robert, I thought for sure you would have been Wow”ed by the advances in your field.
I was expecting I thought this but discovered this. Sure, we knew these advances were coming…

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Steefen
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March 4, 2025 - 5:14 pm

So China confirms Sumer about Enki. Wow ! ! ! to learning this and incorporating this into my understanding of sacred scripture.

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Colin Milton

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March 4, 2025 - 5:38 pm

Genesis 1 might be a poem. εποιησεν

ποιεω
μα
verb becomes a noun
εω=η contract verb thing
ποιημα

ΤΟ ΠΟΙΗΜΑ 😯 a nueter poem

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Robert
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March 4, 2025 - 6:18 pm
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Colin Milton

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March 4, 2025 - 7:31 pm

Were you telling the Vatican that the spirit within man exists as a wavefunction until it is observed by God and then it afterwards the spirit becomes made of particles?

The Quantum of Spirit Wave Particle Duality Theory.

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Colin Milton

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March 5, 2025 - 10:55 am

εγενετο seems like an appropriate Greek word for evolution, existence, creation without a God.

Middle voice 2nd aorist verb of γενω. It does a γενω on itself. Middle voice.

εγενοντο τα παντα ησαν.

🤷‍♂️

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Stephen
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March 5, 2025 - 12:08 pm

Robert I suspect yours was a Licentious Licentiate. BWAHAHAHA…

(That both the adjective and the noun spring from the same Latin root is wonderful.)

Sorry, never mind me. Resume your discussion.

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March 5, 2025 - 1:44 pm

Comment 150

Fuxi and Nuwa are different from Enki and Nihusag.

The story of Fuxi and Nuwa only date back to 475-221 BCE while Enki and Ninhursag date back to the 18th century BCE.

Nuwa and Enki and Belet-ili create humans from clay and breathed life into them.

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March 6, 2025 - 12:25 pm

YouTube Channel: Vyager
Video: 1 Min Ago: Michio Kaku Panics Over Chandrayaan-3’s Terrifying Moon Discovery!

The Universe is not obligated to make sense to us.
The Multiverse Conscious God is not obligated to make sense to us.

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April 12, 2025 - 6:35 pm
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Steefen
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April 13, 2025 - 1:36 pm

Robert
The Electric Universe is considered pseudoscience by the mainstream scientific community.

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The Electric Universe has explained things that non-“pseudoscience” has not explained.

For examples:

One Year Ago

Four Months Ago

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Steefen
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April 13, 2025 - 1:50 pm

To be a trusted voice on calling things pseudo-sciencem start with the 12:28 minute video instead of the 49:40 minute video.
Since there are so many mainstream scholars, the subject matter experts should be able to fault The Electric Universe explanation.

When I get a chance, I’ll see if ChatGPT can point this forum thread to a better collection of encyclopedias than chatgpt, perhaps one that specializes in this subject.

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