Just so tragic. Words can never do justice.
I feel the whole “lesson learned” is just a way to try to make sense of the suffering.
I was three pounds at birth. Nobody thought I’d live. And for years it was touch and go. I’d get fevers so high the only thing my mom and dad could do was to put me in a bathtub full of cold water and ice cubes to lower the temperature.
I went through quite a lot in my early years. However, I don’t see any lessons. I have a strong will to survive or was just lucky or my parents had the means to provide me care. I’ve always been convinced if I’d been poor, I’d have died.
“what lesson did the daughter learn? How did she grow?”
I dunno.
What lessons (if any) did this guy learn, and how (if at all) did he grow?
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Message from Mike:
“Many nurses and non-nursing staff begged me and my wife to get the truth out to the public about the Covid-19 vaccines because the truth of deaths from the vaccine was being hidden within the medical profession.
I promised I would get the message out.
So, here is my message:
I was afraid of getting the vaccine for fear that I might die.
At the insistence of my doctor, I gave in to pressure to get vaccinated.
On August 17th I received the Moderna vaccine and starting feeling ill three days later.
I never recovered but continued to get worse.
I developed multisystem inflammation and multisystem failure that medical professionals could not stop.
My muscles disappeared as if to disintegrate.
I was in ICU for several weeks and stabbed with needles up to 24 times a day for those several weeks, while also receiving 6 or 7 IVs at the same time (continuously).
It was constant torture that I cannot describe.
I was no longer treated as a human with feelings and a life.
I was nothing more than a covid vaccine human guinea pig and the doctors excited to participate in my fascinating progression unto death.
If you want to know more, please ask my wife.
I wished I would have never gotten vaccinated.
If you are not vaccinated, don’t do it unless you are ready to suffer and die.”
“for years it was touch and go.
I’d get fevers so high the only thing my mom and dad could do was to put me in a bathtub full of cold water and ice cubes to lower the temperature.
I went through quite a lot in my early years. …
I’ve always been convinced if I’d been poor, I’d have died”
What influence (if any) did your experience have on your attitude toward people who are:
poor?
infirm?
What lessons (if any) did Matt learn, and how (if at all) did he grow?
Daniel Hallock, _Six Months to Live: Learning from a Young Man with Cancer_ (2015)
“I wouldn’t trade my life for anyone else’s.
If I could choose not to have cancer, and continue my life as it was, I wouldn’t do it.”
– Matt Gauger.
David I have a problem with the wisdom that requires other people suffer. I’m not that special. Nor do I want to be.
My point is pretty straightforward. Future bliss does not undo present suffering. It sure as hell doesn’t compensate for it. Unless of course like Job you’re satisfied with new children, new wealth, new lands to replace the old.
If we operate under the assumption that human beings are fundamentally replaceable, or that we simply read the same data and cycle through the identical human experiences, then the entire point of existence shifts. True utility does not lie in the mechanical repetition of shared facts, but in the radical act of taking a standpoint—if one has the courage to take a standpoint at all.
Crucially, establishing this standpoint is not an attempt to relativize human suffering or historical pain. On the contrary, compassion itself is a matter of perspective. Compassion requires a stable, unwavering vantage point from which to perceive, honor, and respond to trauma. When systems distort our shared frameworks to enforce violence, they do not just alter concepts—they alter our capacity for empathy by breaking our perspective. To fight for a true, uncompromised baseline of understanding is to restore the precise perspective from which genuine compassion becomes possible.
“I have a problem with the wisdom that requires other people suffer”
Who or what advocates “the wisdom that requires other people suffer”?
In the realm of biology, do you believe that there’s a requirement that particular animals suffer?
“I’m not that special”
Are you unique?
“Future bliss does not undo present suffering”
Makes sense.
What happens tomorrow can’t change what happened yesterday.
“It sure as hell doesn’t compensate for it”
If something is “sure as hell,” how sure is it?
In your view, is there an afterlife, and if so, do some people experience a hellish environment in their afterlife?
“Unless of course like Job you’re satisfied with new children, new wealth, new lands to replace the old”
Reference that he was “satisfied with new children, new wealth, new lands to replace the old”?
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