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THIS IS MAJOR ! ! ! Yahweh was not originally a Canaanite God ! ! !
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Robert
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October 24, 2026 - 7:53 pm
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Porphyry

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October 24, 2026 - 8:21 pm

> Not AFAIK.

Would you say you habitually answer relevant questions directly put to you, or would you say your MO is to flood the forum with excerpts from books you haven’t read and to ask questions incessantly of other posters (often not even taking the time to make them full sentences, and often not on topic) without having the courtesy to answer when questions are put to you? 

> URL to your post?

You can search for the exact phrase “Brandolini’s Bullshit Asymmetry Principle ” or “partially masticated crayon” if you’d like to relive one of my more acerbic moments.  “God, you are stupid” should also pull it up. 

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Robert
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October 24, 2026 - 8:24 pm
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DavidFord

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October 24, 2026 - 8:47 pm

“Would you say you”
No.

“You can search for”

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David seems to think he is a sort of modern Socrates, asking hard questions while professing his own ignorance.
But Socrates actually engaged meaningfully with his interlocutors.
David is closer to the kid down the street who just repeatedly demands, “says who?” while bits of partially masticated crayon fall out of his mouth.

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Porphyry said:
‘David is closer to the kid down the street who just repeatedly demands, “says who?” while bits of partially masticated crayon fall out of his mouth.’
What an apt description!

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Porphyry

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October 24, 2026 - 8:52 pm

> No.

How would you characterize your typical posting pattern? Your typical response when another poster asks you a direct question? 

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DavidFord

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October 24, 2026 - 9:32 pm

“How would you characterize your typical posting pattern?”
Lots of questions and lots of quotes.

“Your typical response when another poster asks you a direct question?”
Answer the question, or ask a clarifying question.

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Robert
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October 26, 2026 - 12:49 pm
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Helen Young

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October 26, 2026 - 5:26 pm

I like the idea that the idea of Yahweh originated in Greece. I like their culture, their art, architecture, philosophy, and democracy.

I don’t think I’ll go with the idea, however. Greece had a lot of gods and goddesses. I honestly tend to think that it probably originated elsewhere.

The idea of one God and one overarching presence probably originated way back in time, before written history and before most of the things we see as human culture or civilization. Possibly as far back as the Stone Age and early humanity.

Calling this Presence/God Yahweh, it seems probably came later.

It’s my understanding that Yahweh means ‘I am’, ‘I exist’, ‘I am real’. It’s an interesting way of God expressing Emself.

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Robert
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October 26, 2026 - 6:59 pm
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October 26, 2026 - 7:29 pm
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Steefen
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October 27, 2026 - 8:08 pm

For more than a decade, Yahweh, to me has been nothing more than a local god.
Yahweh did not seem to be equivalent to the Heavenly Father of Jesus.
I can see Yahweh allowing the wicked tenants to kill his Son.

El was the top of the Canaanite pantheon.
We had a discussion here about Yahweh usurping El.

So, if Yahweh was not known as far north in Syria as Ugarit, that just proves my point that Yaweh was a LOCAL god not worthy of being a global god, let alone god of the afterlife or god of the universe.

A local god cannot globally flood all humans–to refer to another discussion we had.

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Robert
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October 27, 2026 - 8:35 pm
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Steefen
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October 27, 2026 - 9:21 pm

Robert said

Steefen said
For more than a decade, Yahweh, to me has been nothing more than a local god.
Yahweh did not seem to be equivalent to the Heavenly Father of Jesus.
I can see Yahweh allowing the wicked tenants to kill his Son.
El was the top of the Canaanite pantheon.
We had a discussion here about Yahweh usurping El.
So, if Yahweh was not known as far north in Syria as Ugarit, that just proves my point that Yaweh was a LOCAL god not worthy of being a global god, let alone god of the afterlife or god of the universe.
A local god cannot globally flood all humans–to refer to another discussion we had.

I follow your reasoning here, Steefen. You may be confusing the historical and regional origins of early belief in Yahweh with the evolution of later theological beliefs about the exalted nature of Yahweh. Can you please take a look at my Post #132 and let me know if you would like me to remove all of the critical comments and discussion of your posting behavior in this thread so that it may focus on your consideration of Neal’s ideas on the Hellenistic origins of Yahweh?
  

Yes, please.

Thank you.

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