Let’s suppose Jesus was indeed a carpenter. Where did he get his wood? I’m assuming he didn’t pick it up at Lowe’s or Home Depot….
Pondering that question has helped me think in more granular detail about why it makes no sense to talk about Jesus in relation to modern economics. It’s easy, of course (and completely right), to say in principle that Jesus could not be a capitalist because there was no such thing as capitalism then (or socialism, or marxism, or pick your ism). But it’s useful to think in a bit more detail about it. Why couldn’t Jesus be a capitalist?
There certainly were people (presumably lots of them) at his time, as always, who were committed to making profits, to adjusting prices based on the market (that is, charging the most they could get), and to competing for customers without governments governing the means of production or setting prices, etc. But a capitalist economy as we know it requires advanced technology, production, and distribution, unavailable to humans in Jesus’ day, or ever, actually, for nearly all of humanity’s first 300,000 years.
To illustrate the point, let’s think about pins and gates.
Adam Smith begins The Wealth of Nations by discussing the importance of specialization or production for modern economies, famously providing the example metal pins. How long does it take to make a pin? If you don’t have any machinery to produce it, well, good luck period. Doing it with or without advanced equipment requires drawing out the wire, straightening it, cutting it, pointing it, grinding the top flat to make it receptable to a head, fashioning the head itself, attaching it to the body, and so on. In the end, Smith points out, it takes something like eighteen different tasks to do the job – to make a single pin. If you’re the one doing all this you almost certainly could not make 20 pins a day. Maybe only one.
But Smith visited a pin factory that employed ten people, each with a specific task (or two or three closely connected ones). Doing it that way, with the requisite machinery, one person is drawing the wire, another straightening it, another cutting it, etc. This small business could produce around 48,000 pins in a day, that is, an average of about 4800 per person (instead of less than 20).
Extend that to other industries. How many functions are there for producing a wool coat? You need a shepherd/sheerer, a sorter of the wool, a scribbler, a carder, a dyer, a spinner, a weaver, a fuller, and so on (not to mention work involved with producing buttons etc.). If you are all of those, how long will it take?
And then you have to sell it. If you make hundreds of coats (or tens of thousands of pins), you need customers who want them and are willing to pay for them. Otherwise there’s no point making them. To get your products to them you need transportation system (today: planes, trains, ships, eighteen-wheelers, etc.). All those means of conveyance as well, though, can only be manufactured en mass by advances in technology and specialization and yet other transport systems.
Jesus, obviously, had none of the above.
If Jesus was a woodworker, how would he do his work?
Jesus lived in a small hamlet, Nazareth, in rural Galilee. Archaeologists have shown that it was a small place, covering around four acres, with possibly 50 houses, and a population perhaps of 400 or so. (Based on Mark 6:3, Jesus’ family would have numbered 9 or 10 at least – himself, his parents, four brothers, and at least two sisters). Everyone was poor – there were no public buildings or signs of wealth (e.g. nice dishware, mosaics, etc). The houses were evidently built from field stones piled on one another with the gaps filled with smaller stones, insulated with mud, clay, or dung mixed with straw, and with thatched roofs.
There were no major roads connected to the village. There must have been trails to nearby villages but there appears to have been no road leading to the closest city, Sephoris.
As with most villages in Galilee, residents of Nazareth would principally have been farmers, growing their own produce and paying taxes (Roman and the Jewish temple tax) out of whatever surplus they had. Subsistence living. There is no evidence of large agricultural estates there, so the inhabitants would not have been working as tenant farmers (i.e., more or less above the level of slavery). But the soil was fertile and there was ample rainfall. The main crops were grains (barley or wheat), olives, fruits, nuts, and vegetables. It was in a forested area with olive trees, oak, terebinth and some pine.
Households would have had their own plots of land to grow what they needed to survive; all family members who could (men, women, and old-enough children) would have worked the fields. Some of the adults would have engaged in craftwork on the side to meet the needs of for others in the community. There would have been need for metal work (for tools and such), rough stone work, wood work, and so on. These would have been “occasional” jobs, in addition to the farming, and primarily done on a bartering system (archaeologists have found some coins, but not a lot).
It is striking that the people of Nazareth refer to Jesus as “the” carpenter (Mark 6:3). That suggests what otherwise simply makes sense, that the village needed only one. And doing what, specifically?
In a book written around 150 CE, the Christian author Justin Martyr indicates that Jesus made “yokes and plows” (Dialogue with Trypho, 88). That completely plausible. It’s not that Justin had some inside information about Jesus; it’s just that he knew what carpenters in that kind of setting made. Farmers need yokes and plows.” They also need hand tools (often with wood handles). They would have probably needed gates (both made and repaired). Many doors in Israel were solid stone on stone hinges; but there were wooden doors as well – so these too may have been included in the wood-inventory. In addition, thatched roofs required wooden beams to hold them.
So let’s say Jesus made those things on occasion, as they were needed. Back to my original question. Where did he get the wood? Since Nazareth was in a forested area, timber was certainly available available. He probably harvested it himself. Unlike small villages, in urban settings where there were large building projects, the woodworkers (carpenters and/or joiners) could purchase wood from woodcutters who actually felled the trees. But in rural areas, the woodworker (say, Jesus) almost certainly was also the wielder of the axe.
They normally did use axes for that, and for de-barking. Saws were available (though it’s not clear if they would have been in a small place like Nazareth) but were used mainly for sectioning the fallen tree. Wedges and mallets were suitable for splitting. After that, adzes, mallets, chisels, planes etc. would have been used. Again, for rural villages, that would not have been fine cabinetry, but gates, possibly doors, roof beams, yokes, plows, handles for tools, etc.

And so, if Jesus was “the” carpenter in town, apprenticed, say, to his father Joseph. he would have taken on jobs as requested and probably worked by himself – cutting down the tree, stripping it, sectioning it, splitting it, and going from there. How many gates could he make in a day? Well, none. How many days would it take? I don’t know. Maybe one of you will try it yourself and see (time yourself from start to finish and divide by, say, four (?) to see what someone who did it regularly could do).
Now then. What if Jesus had a vision of the future and realized there could be a better way. He decided to started a company with ten other hardy fellows from Nazareth to “mass produce” the yokes and gates and what nots. Suppose they were extremely efficient, each with their specialized individual tasks. Suppose they could crank out five gates a week. Twenty a month. Month after month. OK, that opens up the option for capitalist ventures. But, well, who are they going to sell them to? There are only 40 houses in town, and they already have gates and yokes and plows.
To make a “profitable business” out of it, they would have to see them outside of Nazareth. So would they export them? How? Carry them? There aren’t railroads. And places nearby already have their own carpenters.
Production in a capitalist economy requires both advanced technology and specialized division of labor along with (relatively large) markets with people who have money to spend, as well as modes and systems of efficient transportation for distribution. None of that was conceived of in Jesus’ day, let alone in a small village in rural Galilee not even connected with a major road. There was no modern technology; no significant markets; no transportation systems.
Why can’t Jesus be a capitalist? He’s living in a different universe.
What would he have thought about capitalist principles and practices. That is another story. Or possibly two other stories.
I don’t see why it would be difficult for someone living in Nazareth to take part in the prosperity of Sepphoris even if he did not choose to move his residence there – indeed rather surprising that a tecton living there would not do this when the big opportunity arose, as it surely did in Antipas’ expansionary years in the first two decades of the millennium. I’m not at all sure that we can really write the bio of Jesus in a way that does full justice to all the bits of information that we have, but it seems quite reasonable to think that Joseph and Sons was quite a prosperous concern, allowing Jesus to grow up literate – even intellectual; the Rejection scene suggests that he had been away from the local scene and giving himself what the local yokels considered to be airs – to be used to food and drink at a high level, to be in contact with Joanna wife of Chuza, a leading member surely of Sepphoris/Tiberias society
If Nazareth was essentially a “suburb” of Sepphoris wouldn’t that have been a good place to sell products? Or possibly a place to work? It would have been a short “commute”.
It wasn’t a suburb; it was probably about a two-hour walk away.
So is it unlikely that Joseph, Jesus or the brothers did any work in Sephoris?
Sephoris would have its own workers?
Yup, possibly more workers than work, if it was typical of other places that size.
This is a wonderful post. The archaeological details helped me form a vivid picture of Jesus’ life before he began his ministry. It made me realize that people had to produce their own food simply to have something to eat the next day, and that sanitary conditions were extremely poor by modern standards. I wonder whether a modern person transported back to that world could survive even a week!
It seems to me that capitalism cannot exist on agriculture and other primary industries alone. It requires at least some manufacturing, as well as activities such as trade and services.
I also think it is important to understand how money was used at the time, particularly in terms of the extent to which it enabled people to accumulate wealth. My impression is that its use for that purpose may have been limited to a very small minority in urban areas.
Your post reminded me that, as people living in a capitalist world, we need to be careful not to let our own economic assumptions shape—and potentially distort—our reading of the Bible.
Or, if he could turn water into wine and bread into his body, my guess is that he could turn stone into wood.
A very convincing argument. On a minor point and sorry to be picky, but as a Galilean resident, Jesus wouldn’t have paid tax to Rome, he would have paid it to the semi-autonomous client king, Herod Antipas. Some of that money may eventually have reached Rome as tribute however.
Yes, there were Roman taxes that Antipas collected (as well as his own taxes).
I really don’t get the premise of this book project. Capitalism is based on the private ownership of the means of production. As I recall, Jesus’ emphasis was not on who owned what, but what that person did with what was theirs. And if he truly believed the world was about to end soon, there would be no point to using the means of production to increase your own wealth, or even to “improve” society. I’ll be curious to see where you go with this, but it really feels like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.
Yup. I get it. And that’s kinda what I’ll be arguing. But it leads to other, more relevant questions (especially given the Prosperity Gospel and other beliefs widely held). If many millions of people sincerely believe that Jesus supported the capitalist system they themselves endorse, it’s probably worthwhile dealing with it in print.disabledupes{6f094ab219262bd4317eadd68a16f0a4}disabledupes
“to say in principle that Jesus could not be a capitalist because there was no such thing as capitalism then (or socialism, or marxism, or pick your ism) ”
I pick up Marxism !
Communists are something like the modern version of Christians. They traded the Apocalypse for the Revolution, and the Kingdom of Heaven—where the last shall be first and it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter—became the workers’ paradise where, as the metaphor goes, the rich do not enter.
Both movements were cruelly persecuted by the status quo, but once they managed to prevail, they became just as persecutory as they had once been persecuted. They had no qualms about wiping out heretics and dissidents; they always remember their martyrs, never their victims.
I have seen many parallels between socialism and the church. It seems to me that the church is a natural mode of socialism. Shhh don’t tell your Christian neighbors they’re liable to have a heart attack. When you compare Jesus with revolutionaries of the both modern ideologies do you consider him closer to socialist thinkers or capitalist thinkers, I think the answer is pretty clear.
We spend too much time rationalizing details taken from comments in Gospels that were 95% fiction. Consider other possible opportunities for a “tekton” besides fabricating farm tools. Within a few miles of Nazerath, was the major city of Sepphoris where it is likely Joseph found employment during the urban renewal project sponsored by Harod Antipas in about 6 CE. A large city requires the whole spectrum of trade crafts. beyond being his Dad’s apprentice, there were any number of building trades beyond being a carpenter in Nazereth. I would rather put my money on him being trained in a religious capacity. possibly mentored by John the Baptist or other itinerant preachers or magicians roaming the countryside. My pet theory is that he studied under the Magi to become a mytical sage. This makes so much more sense. an example would be Simon Magus, the Samaritan mirror image of Jesus last seen having a magic contest with Peter at the Forum in Rome. Simon’s Levantine tenure was spent as an itinerant preacher who also did magic. Remember, if Jesus did a trick it was a miracle, If anyone else did the same trick, it was sorecery.
Does tgis relate to the biblical “Talent” in the parable?
It my understanding that the “Talent” was a standardized Amphora, divided into 60 sub-units, with each divided int 60 sub-units (in Babylon), or decimal divisions in some Greek areas.
The sub volumes could define volumes of wheat, wine, oil, gold, silver, etc for tax and trade, allowing equation of values in different commodities to be established.
The granting of a “Talant” to allow these conversions would be a very valuable tool indeed. It would be like granting a licensed scale legal for trade at a farmers market today, without which, profits and taxes could not be defined.
If Jesus was talking about the tool itself, does it make allusion to Adam having the power to name all things, as the story extends this power to make agreed upon trades and agreed taxes with fair and due proposition?
If Talent is taken as actual coinage as in King James, it justifies Capitalism. If it refers to the tool to make fair and accurate proportioned trades rooted in Torah traditions, it does not justify Capitalism, but makes trade rooted in deeper social norms
Is this view of the parable applicable?
A “talent” was a unit of money based on its substance (gold/silver) and weight.
Do we have a full description of the actual tax system used in Jesus day?
Its my understanding that the system was mostly regressive, with smaller farmers paying more than larger plantations in the hinterlands or further from urban centers.
There is not enough in the Gospels to make case for tgis musing, but suppose that Jesus was able to attract an audience in the hinterland, who would likely need to glean fields as allowed in Leviticus, reducing yields and requiring the wealthy to take out high interest loans from tax collectors
This would give jesus political bargaining to trade tax relief for his followers in order to gain higher profits with high interests loans backed by Titled land as collateral… a great deal for tax collectors, his audience, and real political power for jesus
However, the Gospels only described jesus and his disciples cleaning the fields shortly after he first meets with tax collectors, and the author seems to be ignorant of tge allowances to glean fields in Leviticus….but gives an argument that leviticus cleaning should apply to sabbath
Do we have clear details of the context of taxation?
It could be useful to understand the economics
Yes, we do have ancient descriptions of how taxes worked, both for the Roman administration of the provinces and internally in Galilee and Judea. The descriptions are never as full and abundant as we’d like, but that’s true of most things from antiquity. The main Roman taxes were on land depending on yield and on persons — the poll tax was the same for everyone. THe idea of a progressive income tax was not around. There was a Temple tax for Jews, both in the homeland and abroad, same amount for every adult male. There were disputes, though, whether it was to be a one-time (once in a lifetime) charge or an annual one. I don’t think gleaning itself led to high interest loans or any indication that he was urging his followers to live off the land; he would not have been doing business with Herod Agrippa or bankers connected with high interest loans.
Jesus’ Parable Heroes:
• landlord
• financial estate manager
• self-interested accountant for a wealthy business
• luxury pearl trader
• profligate failson with signet ring
• investment managers (in the Parable of the Minas, banking interest is too lowly)
• man with a dozen servants
• landowner
• found money
Jesus’ mission is in part financed by Joanna, married to Herod’s financial estate manager, Chuza
The Apostle Paul greets the Roman Emperor’s financial estate manager in an epistle.
Jesus introduces cash (capital) relief to the poor. (Jewish people had gleaning. The Talmud points to Arabians for cash charity, ostensibly because they were very rich and less likely to be present at settled lands for gleaning). Feeding the 4,000 and 5,000 plus others sounds like Augustus’ Res Gestai 100,000 on a king-of-king’s scale. So I think he likes what capital can do.
And Jesus never praises hard labor, hard labor gets ridiculed.
So I’d put him near the modern Scandinavian socialist bucket — high bar to entry (the Narrow Gate), great system. Norway is a gov with its own investment fund that would make every Norwegian a millionaire, and that’s what I imagine Nabataea to have a proto-version of.
Dr. Ehrman, couldn’t a tekton in koine Greek be a Maker or a Craftsman in Semitic languages? The superpopular first century trend of Nabu in Edessa and Palmyra, (the water ablution heir of Mesopotamian Enki, but originally a Semitic deity) discussed by Dr. Baker in Mesopotamian Origins of The New Testament, 2022, inherits the honorific of *Maker/Craftsman*.
But it isnt *lowly-lowly*, it’s immaterial God acting in the material form. It’s not as lowly and humble a life as the First Century Jewish texts that praise the Galilee guy for being content all week on just a basket of carob, or Honi for getting his town blessed by rain while staying in his little circle.
Dr. Ehrman, I think you would be a great mind for answering my question:
Is the Great Revelation a conversatiom with Revelation? Do John the Baptist’s followers simply give the location of Jesus ruling from:
• Mount Sinai
• Qom region (the pre-Islamic Arabian minor chiefdoms)
• Jewish refugees are settled in Bostra
That makes the Jesus of Revelation a composite:
•Malichus (like Jesus MLK in the Titulus), •Rabbel (his lil lamb)
• Shaqilat the Worthy
a trinity.
Bart, you nicely described the details of stone construction. The thatched roof may have been similarly primitive. My viewpoint of what may have been likely in Jesus’ Galilee is gleaned from spending a good deal of time in rural Baja California. Jesus probably had more trees available to work with than a Baja California rural rancher might, but I imagine that their building approach may have employed similar, ingenious uses of local materials. We shouldn’t imagine that Galilee tectōns had a lot of tall, straight Douglas Fir trees to cut into lumber!
In Baja California, thatched roof construction employs a few “beams” made of tree trunks or large branches stripped of bark, “rafters” made of straight, flat ribs removed from large cardon cactus, and palm leaves for thatch. There’s cutting and construction, but it’s mostly assembly of these naturally available components. The actual woodworking is minimal compared with both modern construction and the components employed. I’ll bet that workers like Jesus used a similarly simple and efficient approach to their work.
Dr. Ehrman,
Regarding Jesus “the carpenter”, would you mind giving your take on the probability of it being historical?
I think it’s reasonably likely. I don’t now of any reason really to doubt it.