As you probably know, a number of volunteers work for the blog, graciously giving their time and talents to promote the work we’re doing. As one of the perks, volunteers who have published a book of relevance to what we do here on the blog can write a post on it for us. I did an interview this past August with Glenn Siepert that I enjoyed very much; he is a very good interviewer (you can see it here: Interview on Lost Christianities: “What If Project” Podcast | The Bart Ehrman Blog ). Afterward he volunteered to design graphics for some of the blog posts, and we’ve all benefited from it.
Glenn has just published a book about how he left a fundamentalist form of Christianity and the new world he then entered into. Here is his description of his experience and the book.
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Hello friends. My name is Glenn Siepert and Bart invited me onto the blog today to share with you a bit about my new book that I recently self-published via Amazon. The book is called (Re)Thinking Everything and it’s about my spiritual journey out of a fundamentalist world of black and white thinking and into a great, wide world of color.
Allow me to explain.
I grew up in the world of conservative Evangelicalism. I went to a Private Christian School from the 4th – 12th grades and then went off to attend an Evangelical Bible College, then an Evangelical Seminary, then to pastor a church, then back to the same Evangelical Seminary (for another degree). I received straight A’s in most of my classes, earned a preaching scholarship, all but memorized my Wayne Grudem Systematic Theology textbook (not to mention Josh McDowell’s Evidence That Demands a Verdict) and was well on my way to building a career in the world of Evangelicalism.
But then one morning I found myself in the NICU with my newborn daughter.
My wife had just had a C-section and was out cold from the anesthesia when the doctor informed me that I needed to follow his team to the NICU because our baby was having trouble breathing on her own. I left my wife in the care of the nurses and ran down a hallway that seemed to have endless twists and turns and before I had even a moment to grasp what was happening, the doctors had our daughter connected to all sorts of wires and tubes and laying in a tank that had holes on the side for me to stick my arms into.
“I can touch her?”, I asked.
“Sure”, the nurse said, “I’ll give you some time with your daughter.”
I reached my hand into the tank and I’ll never forget the rush of energy that flew through my body as my daughter grabbed my pinky and touched me for the very first time. Tears welled up in my eyes as I tried to process all that was happening when all of a sudden an unexpected voice rose up from deep within me. It wasn’t audible. It wasn’t “the voice of God”. Instead, it was a familiar inner voice – the voice of my younger self, the voice of a child who had endured years and years and years of problematic teaching that had been deeply ingrained into his subconscious. At that moment in the NICU this dormant voice sprung to life inside of me, raised his fist into the air and shouted, “Seriously? Do you really believe that this baby is born sinful and that she’s destined for hell if she doesn’t believe the right things about Jesus? You’re really going to pass that garbage on to her?” This is what I had believed for over 30 years of my life because it was all I ever knew, the only narrative I was ever given; BUT at that moment in the NICU with all my years of schooling and study and pastoring under my belt … I was having a major theological crisis.
My book is the story of my crisis. As I mentioned above, it’s called (Re)Thinking Everything and it’s the story of my journey out of the black and white world of Christian fundamentalism and into the wonderful world of color that I find myself in today.
The book is divided into 5 chapters with the first 4 being an exploration of the hot topics of hell, LGBTQ inclusion, biblical inerrancy, and salvation / the message of the cross, and the 5th being a “letter” of sorts that I wrote to the god I used to believe in, the god I experienced in Evangelicalism who is angry at my sin, sending people to hell who believe the wrong things, waiting to destroy the world, and allowing people to go hungry, get raped, and have their lives torn to shreds by hurricanes and tornadoes and cancer all because it’s somehow “part of his will”.
What happened in the NICU the morning my daughter was born sent me down the rabbit hole of what many would call “faith deconstruction” where as soon as I began to rethink my thoughts on original sin, the doors began to open to other things as I wondered, “Hmm. If the stuff I was taught about original sin is off … what other teachings need to be re-examined as well?” There are lots of topics I could have explored in the book, but I chose those 4 because those topics were the ones that I was taught had absolutely no wriggle room for different thinking and so they were the hardest ones for me to grapple with.
The book coincides with my podcast at the What If Project that I started a year after my daughter was born. The project explores the question, “what if there are ways of thinking about God and faith that are different than what our traditions have handed us?” We’ve spoken to people like Bart, Brian McLaren, NT Wright, Barbara Brown Taylor, David Brakke, James McGrath, Diana Butler Bass, Alexander John Shaia, Elaine Pagels, and many more (we’ll hit 200 episodes this Spring!) in an effort to find other ways to think about matters of faith that many of us were told could only be understood or thought about in one, narrow, black and white way.
My hope is that this book will fall into the hands of people who have had their own NICU moments, but have nowhere safe to bring their questions, their doubts, and their uncertainties. Much like the podcast, I hope the book can be a lifeboat of sorts that is trailing behind the ship of Evangelicalism (or some other fundamentalist faith tradition) and picking up people who jumped off, were pushed off, or fell off so that they can have a place to dry off, get warm, and be loved and appreciated for who they are regardless of where they are on their journey.
That said, below is the link to the book on Amazon as well as well as some other ways to connect with me and my work. Thank you so much for taking the time to read this post, I look forward to connecting with you out in cyberspace!
- Glenn
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Book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09QNV8QX7/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1642967582&sr=8-1
Email: [email protected]
Website / Blog: http://www.whatifproject.net
Instagram: @gsiepert
What If Project Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/whatifproject.net
What If Project (Closed) Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/whatifprojectcommunity
What If Project – YouTube: http://youtube.com/c/whatifprojectpodcast
What If Project – Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7oGrRDh7FMkmgf0kSUigsQ?si=oBiMmzSGTYmlkgy4G56tNA
What If Project – Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-if-project/id1397047558
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/whatifproject
Excellent post. I went to Amazon and the book does not appear to be available in KINDLE format. Is this something that will be addressed in future?
Thank you so much! Kindle is COMING. The book is self-published via Amazon and so the company that did the formatting for me could have done it for Kindle, but at a hefty extra cost. I opted to go for print only, but a gracious listener of my podcast used to work for a publisher and offered to do the Kindle formatting for me. I hope to have it available in the next month or so.
Original Sin, however formulated, is surely one of the most toxic ideas ever conceived. To teach people that they are guilty simply for being born is evil.
So true. It was one of the hardest ideas for me to unlearn (I’m still unlearning it!) and looking back on it, it’s the teaching that probably caused me the most wounding.
The one part of the “original sin” story I do accept is that we humans are imperfect: fallible, flawed, and finite. But I also believe a loving God (if there is a God) would not create us imperfect and then send us to hell for being imperfect.
Thanks for sharing! These days I tend to think we are born perfect with a divine image planted within us that we are intended to live from … but overtime we forget who we are and the goal becomes to wake up and remember either in this life or the next.
Just where I’m at these days!
My sense is Jesus would’ve probably agreed wholeheartedly with you on that and would’ve found the idea of babies going to hell every bit as disgusting.
To me its clear from the passage (Im sure you can recall exactly which gospel/s chapter and verse) where he praises children as worthy-of-the-kingdom models to emulate; I would assume we become so by freeing ourselves from the hatred, objectification , judgement, etc of one’s fellows that isn’t innate but sadly, in so many of us, instilled over the years by society’s most toxic narratives. ironically these are often voiced by those who pretend to moral authority, the ones Jesus took issue with the most.
Yes, exactly! Great insight. Thanks for sharing!
Original Sin, however formulated, is surely one of the most humbling/revealing ideas ever conceived. Of course the bible doesn’t say infants go to hell but rather each infant has his own angel and that anyone that would harm them would be better off with cement shoes at the bottom of the ocean. Mt 8:16, Mk 9:42, Lk 17:2.
Because I am not an infant I know that sin is not what I do— it is who I am that makes the death of Jesus that much more wonderful. Just ask Paul as Bart says. Romans 7:15
Sounds like we see things quite differently. Thanks for sharing!
I just bought a copy (hardbound, which is usually my preference if the cost is not too much of a consideration). I often find that the best discussions come from those who have not already convinced themselves that they know all of the answers, especially on topics of this sort.
Thank you my friend! I’m SLIGHTLY disappointed with the hardcover. The book is self-published via Amazon and the hardcover feature is a Beta program they are only offering to select Amazon accounts. Mine is one of them and they told me they are still working “the kinks” out of the printing.
The hardcover cover printed a little large and the margins inside are a bit small. It also takes 3-4 weeks to go to printing (whereas the softcover is a day or 2). I love hardcover books, though, so I had to give it a whirl. I hope you enjoy it and it ends up being worth the wait!
Thank you Glenn for your post. It was quite moving. It reminded me of a somewhat similar experience I had when I was younger. I also was a minister and was admitted to the ICU for a heart problem. I thought I was going to die. I had been struggling with my faith intellectually but decided I would continue in it by making a Kierkegaardian leap of faith. I tried to console myself with the thought that if I died, I would go to heaven. But as I looked at my pregnant wife I realized that I valued this life more than an afterlife and my last hold on Christianity dissolved in the ICU bed. I had what I thought was a death bed deconversion. Looking at your daughter and doubting original sin makes sense to me. Nothing like hard realities to correct us.
Phew, ain’t that the truth? Hard realities correct us – that is such a good way to put it.
I used to look forward to escaping this life and heading to the next … but since my daughter was born, I am in love with this life all the more and have found so, so much peace in knowing that some of the earliest branches of Christianity (especially Celtic) had a tremendous focus on living this life well and caring for the world, our fellow humans, etc.
Thank you so much for sharing this bit of your story.
Wayne Grudem is definition problematic.
Absolutely agree!
I had spent what amounted a year in PICU with my son and decades longer caring for him . I made sure he had a life well lived. We love many people in our lives and if we are lucky enough we find a faithful partner to share our life with. This love is only a shadow of the feelings once a child is born or adopted. That little soul is entirely dependent on you and you would give your life in place of theirs if called upon. I definately will order his book. Thank you Dr Ehrman for making me aware.
Wow Theresa, this is beautiful – thank you for sharing.
Glenn,
This is a wonderful post and well written, very clear and sincere. I am thinking of giving copies of your book to my extended family who all (except me) moved from Catholicism to very conservative evangelical churches after our father died. I have to be careful because we are all tired of arguing (esp about Trump) and I am not sure that I want to risk antagonizing them further.
My NICU moment actually came in a high school class at Our Lady of Good Counsel when Brother Gregg explained that it could never be a sin to not believe in any doctrine of the church since you really can’t force yourself to believe anything. I had never heard this before and it is certainly not standard Catholic teaching. I have since traced this vein of Catholic teaching back to Cardinal Newman (1890’s) and to Thomas Acquinas (13th century) and wonder how far it goes back. If Bart is reading this, I would love for him to comment.
David Pollock
Hey David, thanks so much for your encouragement and for sharing that bit of your story. And thanks for passing around some copies of the book, too (I understand about the need to be careful – my podcast and work has created some major waves in our family, it’s so hard). Grateful for you and would love to hear your thoughts when you read it, feel free to shoot me an email at the address listed above in the post. Thanks!
Hi Bart, just want to let you know that there are 2 YouTube channels with your content:
One is called ‘Bart Ehrman’ (link is https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqMSHkWXhGCRT_fZ3PzHF1Q/featured) and only has 3 videos, one with Glenn and the other 2 from the podcast ‘When Belief Dies’. This channel has 84 subscribers.
The other channel is called ‘Bart D. Ehrman’ (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm9O8xILJQAs9LxaM4HiMOQ) with a lot of content and more than 92k subscribers.
I’m subscribed to the Bart D. channel and was confused when I was unable to find Glenn Siepert’s interview with you there (it’s on the other channel but has Glenn’s last name spelled wrong), especially after reading today’s blog post where you say you enjoyed the interview – and by the way, thanks for pointing me in the direction of his blog/podcast ‘What If Project’, and for posting about the nice conversation you had with him!
Bart may be able to speak to this, but after we recorded the episode he had been locked out of his YouTube Channel for a bit and so he wasn’t able to get our episode up on the main one so he put it on the other one.
Ahhhh technology!
Well either Bart or one of the tech people that keep his website safe from his non-technical fudging!!
In any case, I wish he or one of his tech people would at least fix the spelling of your last name – your content is too useful and this conversation with Bart has the potential to help a lot of people so it is only fair and just that they get your name right – and to be clear this is not a technology problem but a human error.
Or did you do or say something to Ehrman that pissed him off? Because he seems to have banished you to his junk channel and for more ‘inri’ disrespected you by changing your identity.
Anyway, I just checked now and verified that no corrections have been made to ‘Slepert’, but rest assured that I’ll check again tomorrow and then fire off an email to Bart if he or his people have not corrected the wrong they are doing to you (hopefully non-intentional, but you can never know for sure).
Haha, all unintentional. I actually worked with Bart quite a bit to break into his YouTube channel but with Google’s many layers of security it was impossible! I don’t really care where the video is or if it was up at all, to be honest – it was a pleasure just to speak with him and share his voice with my listeners. And he’s been extremely good to me with inviting me to be a volunteer and will be coming back on the show this spring to talk about his new book coming out on heaven and hell.
I can get my name spelling corrected, I’ll reach out to him today and let him know in case he hasn’t seen your comment.
Thanks!!
I got a response back from Bart and now your name is corrected!
And you’re now on his main ‘Bart D. Ehrman’ YouTube channel, too.
A big thank you to Bart and his tech people, and to you also Glenn for helping people understand all of the man-made misrepresentations of what Jesus is all about – and by extension what religion and spirituality and a moral life is really about.
And in that vein, I would suggest to both of you that you listen to this:
Lex Fridman Podcast with John Abramson: Big Pharma
https://youtu.be/arrokG3wCdE
Here’s the blurb Lex posted:
“John Abramson is faculty at Harvard Medical School and a family physician for over two decades. He’s the author of the new book ‘Sickening’ about how big pharma broke American healthcare and how we can fix it.”
It is all good and fine to discuss what long dead people said and did, or not, some 2000 years ago but it is also hard to imagine any moral, ethical or religious, spiritual person that can listen to Abramson’s without gaining a whole new perspective on what is really important now if one is sincerely concerned with the well-being of our fellow man.
Thanks! I was emailing with him yesterday too, thanks for your help and for sharing about Abramson, I’ll check it out.
Dr bart Quran didnt Deny there is crucifixon because quran Said jesus is replaced by some one else oN THe cross that god Made resembled jesus , so whether that someone is raised from THe dead or not wE muslim actually doesnt care, so muslim more interested in proofing whether bible is innerant or not instead of asking about ressurection Proof, what do you think about this ?
Dr bart ITS Said that messiah in old testament suppose tO have an actual child when hE come is that true? Because even when jesus return is hE gonna have literal child ? I mean ITS Said in OT that messiah have a child not spiritual but biological childern
Glenn, that’s a great story. You make no mention of what happened to your daughter – I sincerely hope she’s doing well.
Both Protestant and Catholic religions are in urgent need of major reformation. This desire to create a hermetically sealed universe that cannot deal with anything outside its narrow scope, is a major major problem. It seems to me that your experiences prior to the crisis are really about disempowerment, coercion and control. As you realized in your moment of crisis, you cannot create healthy, whole, fully functional adults by preaching this type of religion. It does way more harm than good IMO. I’m glad you made it through to the other side.
All the best to you and your family.
I realized this morning I never mentioned the outcome of the NICU, oops! Thanks for asking 🙂 … Our daughter is a healthy (almost) 5 year old who is full of life and giggles, living up to her middle name of “JOY”.
And yes, so many parts of the Christian faith are in need of a major reformation and, sadly, so many have demonized the movement of “deconstruction” … and I can’t help but wonder if that “deconstruction movement” IS the very reformation or revival that so many within the church have been hoping for for so long, but they are in danger of missing it because it’s not the revival or reformation that they want to see.
So happy to hear this. I was afraid to ask.
Is the Orthodox church in major need of reformation too?
Wow! Thanks so much for sharing this. Ron
Thanks for reading it, Ron!
I never had an epiphany like yours because my doubts were always with me. But I can remember my first moments of fatherhood, also after a C-section, and your thoughts would not have been foreign to the moment. Thank you for sharing.
I think the feelings that erupted in those moments will be with me forever. Thanks for sharing, too!
Wow this hits close to home as I had a similar faith deconstruction experience years ago that had to do with my daughter’s life and all too early death at age 4. Out of those ashes of faith came a rebirth of a radically different worldview. I may need to grab a copy of your book, thank you so much for this project!
Wow, Crystal. I have no words and cannot imagine. Thanks for reading and thanks for sharing this piece of your story. Feel free to reach out anytime, I’d love to hear more of your story if you’d be open to sharing.
Yes it’s a difficult story to tell even after all these years. She was born in 2008 and passed away in 2012. Medical negligence during delivery caused prolonged oxygen depletion which led to severe mental and physical challenges in her short life.
I don’t want to get into it all too much here, but I will say I tried finding some sort of Christian book at the time that would speak to my inner struggles, but found nothing.
Wow. No words, just sending love and peace your way and holding my own daughter a little tighter as I type this. Much love to you.
I have heard of atheists who progressed to evangelism as a result of some kind of “experience”. I believe in the concept of a “pendulum phenomenon” whereby someone who is at an extreme will dramatically swing to the opposite end if suddenly released from his/her present one. Another way to put it: “…the higher you are the harder you fall”. Do you think you and/or others in your situation may have been subject to this?
I myself am Roman Catholic but could be characterized as a “Cafeteria Catholic”…i.e. I “take what I want and leave the rest”. This appellation is regarded as pejorative by the “mainstream”, much like “RINO” and” DINO”.
I think such inherent skepticism avoids the kind of mind-bending that characterizes your story.
I will start tuning in to your “What If” series…thanks!
I don’t think I ever got a grasp of original sin. Paul seems to believe some kind of version of it (Adam did it and now its a demigod ruling the world now but God will conquer it) that we are enslaved to but then believing in Christ frees you from that but then you can sin again after….
Very ad hoc interpretation of crucifixion
Like it was originally (pun intended) a reason to justify Jesus getting murdered.
The other thing for me is it doesn’t really seem to be Christ who is ACTUALLY paying the penalty for that original sin-technically his putative killers are, Jew or Roman. They’re the ones burning in hell forever to redeem mankind.
So I feel like it was possibly Paul’s invention and not an invention of the disciples. They having been Jewish at least would have probably had another interpretation of how through the crucifixion they are redeemed.
This peculiar doctrine seems to have haunted quite a few Christians since then, or in more cases sealed their faith with gratitude and hope in Jesus for dying for them. I see that you’re in the former camp.
Maybe demigod is the wrong word. Does Paul think sin and death are in some sense, “forces” that exert influence on the world and humans that has some level of independence from God? Hence God needing to adopt a child after having sacrificed the kid (though he isn’t yet God’s child) to overcome it.
One expects other Jews would have raised an eyebrow at that notion of sin and death being some mysterious independent force not fully under God’s control and a burden of every human born since Adam.
Also Bart if you could answer, does Paul think that sin and death were originally thought to be conquerable by God via obeying Him? But then He realized that just doesn’t work and tried another method(crucifixion of His son)? Because Paul seems to be implying God didn’t know the law wouldn’t be enough to repel sin and death initially, hence He revealed it, only later realizing its basically not enough and “My angel needs to die as Jesus Christ and get raised to Me as My son for people to be saved.”
In other words, God apologizing and repenting Himself for revealing a law that nobody could fulfill to begin with.
Sorry didn’t mean to reply to another comment with something unrelated.
I think that’s definitely possible for my story. I explain it more in the book, but I was at this place where I was pushing back my questions because I thought that was real “faith” – holding on to “truth” in the midst of questions and doubts. “Questions and doubts are the Devil and we must resist!” But that day in the NICU … all the questions came rushing in and I began to realize that I really needed to unpack some things. I had an Mdiv and was 2 years into a DMin program (both at a very Evangelical school) and I knew that with all of the education under my belt, the standard “don’t ask questions because they are from the Devil” wasn’t going to cut it anymore.
I’m at a similar place as you these days, I think. I take what I want and leave the rest. I’m comfortable reading something from Paul, for instance, and saying “he was definitely wrong” and reading something from the Gospel of Judas or something from Buddhism and saying, “this makes sense to me”. 10 years ago, I never could have imagined saying such a thing, but thank God or the Universe or whatever for evolution and growth and change.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and story, I look forward to connecting more with you!
Thanks Mannix. At your mention of “pendulum phenomenon” I thought of the apostle Paul?? Will now go research this phenomenon in psychology . . .
Part One
The most honest and correct approach of every practicing Christian is that of fundamentalism, integralism, that is, from the blind faith that the Bible (the set of writings that form the biblical canons, rather) is the definitive Word of God. , the only Revelation on which to base the Christian faith.
Hence, it is easy to understand that there are apologists who tooth and nail defend the inerrancy of the Bible, because if errors are admitted in the Word of God and we do not have objective criteria — neither the Epistemology of the Holy Spirit nor the inner testimony of the holy Trinity — to separate the truth from the falsehood in the Holy Scriptures, so how can we know what doctrines, what dogmas are the ones that are going to save us from the lake of sulfur and fire where the torment is eternal and of unimaginable cruelty ?
Part Two
Christianity is an orthodoxy with its guidelines (equivalent to the orthopraxis of Judaism) so that the human race — who is born with sin and has a sinful nature, according to basic Christianity — can be saved from eternal punishment (even for transgressions that has not committed, as the original sin).
The fundamentalist Christian is perfectly distinguished from other types of Christians in that he does not have an iota of doubt about his religious beliefs. Moreover, he considers doubt a lack of faith – which it certainly is – and therefore condemns those who doubt to eternal suffering.
A liberal Christian is generally one who tries to overcome the doubts he has either by resorting to cognitive dissonance, or by inventing a bespoke Christianity that allows him to live comfortably. That type of Christian may have some doubts, but he will try to clarify them in his own way or, in any case, minimize them.
What I am commenting on is expressed much better than I by R P Feynman, to whom I give the floor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Qdl6Gbx0k
Thank you, Mr. Siepert, for sharing your story with us. I’m struck by how the doctrine of original sin was central to your theological crisis. Rachel Held Evans described her own struggle with it, though in her case it the terrible fate of a woman in Afghanistan who likely had never heard the Gospel.
Peace to you and your family.
Thank you my friend. Original Sin and hell were the 2 things that started to unravel for me first. Hell before original sin after I read Rob Bell’s “Love Wins”.
Thanks for sharing, peace back to you and your family as well.
Thank you for sharing your story, Glenn. Like you, I was born into a fundamentalist family and graduated from an evangelical college. Newly married, my husband and I were counselors at the 1956 Billy Graham rally at Madison Square Gardens. One night we brought with us two of my 7th grade students who rather flippantly decided on the way to the rally that they would “go forward.” At the end of Billy Graham’s sermon I met with individuals who had gone forward, explaining to them the list of things they had to believe and assent to in order to be saved. Suddenly latent doubts I had suppressed for years sprang to the surface and I knew that I did not believe what I was telling them. Would what my 7th grade students or others believed at that moment of time assure them a place in heaven rather than torment in hell? No way. The path forward was difficult, but after that NICU moment, there was no turning back.
Amen, no turning back. Thanks for sharing this but if your story with me!
One question- if you happened to be walking down a dark alley would you rather see a group of young men walking towards you that had Bibles in their hands or a group of young men with empty hands?
100% would rather see empty hands. If I saw bibles, I’d probably go the other way.
Fair enough!
Glenn,
Your story resonates with me in so many ways, and I thank you for it. I earned a biblical degree, was an elder in a fundamentalist church, and it all unraveled because I couldn’t accept the notion of hell, or the strict definition of “you must believe exactly these five things or you go to hell.” I have found that all I need to do is use the Bible to counter many of these notions, because they aren’t even biblical!
Thanks to Bart and others, I have a much more nuanced (and I think much closer to reality) view of the Bible and it changes everything! It’s refreshing to be able to say “I disagree” or “that makes sense” to anything I read in the Bible or any other book for that matter. I really like your analogy of black&white versus color.
So, one question for you. Have you found a replacement for the community of a church?
Also, I’m glad to hear your daughter is OK. I was going to ask, but saw that another commenter did that.
Thanks again! I can’t wait to read your book. I’ll probably wait for the Kindle version, though.
Thanks for sharing some of your story with me! Seems like we have a similar story. For community, most has been virtual. I have a closed Facebook group for the podcast that has about 350 in it and then a smaller group of Patreon supporters where we chat, text, zoom, and Marco Polo together. We’ve never met in person but for many of us, it is our church and it’s wonderful. Shoot me an email at [email protected] and I’m happy to get you plugged in somewhere.
As for kindle, I hope to have the book available sometime this spring / early summer.
Thanks again for sharing your story!
Thank you for this. I have just started my own reconversion writing on my blog that very few read. I am at a sticking point, and your post has encouraged me to get back at it!
Thank you.
Wonderful! I’d love to read it, shoot me an email at [email protected].
Good luck Glenn. We all know people don’t easily change their minds, but if you reach ONE person, and help them to have a more decent and compassionate life, it will be a great achievement.
Your daughter is going to have a more caring, sharing, less judgemental upbringing too. That’s a win.
Amen! Thanks for this, I appreciate it!