In my previous post I discussed what a professor at a research university does with his or her time. I did not go into detail about a lot of the really time consuming obligations, which I may at some point devote a post to. For now I want to deal with one other thing that I mentioned in yesterday’s post: the question of tenure. Most people in the rest of the working world have trouble getting their mind around what university tenure is all about. You mean they guarantee you a job for life? They can’t fire you? Really???
Yes, pretty much really. With some provisos.
The tenure system has come under fire in recent years by those outside the system who think that it is a disaster and a bit of a joke. It is sometimes thought or said that that once a professor has tenure, there is no incentive for him or her to do much of anything: they have a job — permantently! And that, it is said, is a recipe for laziness, inactivity, non-productiveness. Basically, it opens itself up to abuse by people who really want to work only ten hours a week and get paid serious money to do so.
So let me say some things about tenure, since I think in fact it is *absolutely essential* to academic life, and possibly for reasons that haven’t occurred to some people (especially its critics.)
First, what is tenure? Tenure is a system where by an academic institution awards a faculty member with a virtual guarantee of his or her position for life. Two key terms to begin with: “virtual” and “awards.” When I say it is a virtual guarantee I mean it is not an absolute guarantee. A tenured professor cannot be fired in normal circumstances. But s/he can be in abnormal circumstances. These include situations of moral turpitude (if a professor is sleeping with members of his class, for example, tenure gets thrown out the window) (not like the old days!) (thank God). And they include situations of financial exigency (when an institution is going broke, it can fire its tenured faculty; this may, of course, lead to lawsuits). And they can, in very rare cases, involve instances in which a tenured professor is judged not to be fulfilling the obligations of the position (for example, not teaching his/her classes, or teaching them dreadfully; not coming to meetings; basically not doing anything. It’s very hard to fire a tenured professor for inactivity or ineptitude, but it can in theory happen.)
So tenure is
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In addition to the applicants research performance, etc. does where one get their PhD substantially impact whether they get a tenure track position? Or is all that matters is the person has a PhD and does all the other things they need to do to meet the requirements?
Yes, where a person did a degree and with whom is extremely important.
I’m awed by the depth of commitment students must have, to plug along for eight years after the bachelor’s degree! Does your university award many scholarships, to at least ease the financial burden?
I’ll be eager to read the next post, because I recall your having said something about there being a political climate in which professors who teach the truth about the development of Christianity *need* to be protected by tenure.
Yes, we provide funding for our students for five years. AFter that they often get other sources of funding to complete there work.
Speaking of academia, there was a disheartening story on NPR today about “too Few University Jobs For America’s Young Scientists”. Do you see these problems as becoming an issue for young researchers in Religious Studies?
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014/09/16/343539024/too-few-university-jobs-for-americas-young-scientists
Yes, it’s a problem across the board — and long has been in some parts of the Humanities.
You’ve anticipated my next question … What are its merits?
Tomorrow’s post!
Does an analogous system operate for UK universities?
Is the title hierarchy assistant-associate-full professorship in US analogous to lecturer-senior lecturer-professor in the UK?
Yes, in the UK it is also a tiered system, but I’ve never been able to get my mind around it. Maybe someone else on the blog can spell it out for us.
Maybe this is an opportunity to ask your colleague Mark Goodacre for a guest post.
Good idea.
After Rutgers, did you have to start all over at UNC? I assume they grant you those years and then review you after the 6th year of your teaching in total, not 6 more years at UNC. Or was that the case? Quite interesting.
Yes, I had to start from scratch. It really wasn’t fair, but … I did!
That’s interesting.
Very.
Tell me bart what would it take for me to meet you one day. ? When is your next lecture in colorado next to the garden of gods 🙂
No plans for Colorado just now, I’m sorry to say!
Looks like I’m going to NC jk 🙂
to teach some of your students a few methods of interpreting the bible,
nag hammadi alphabetical index, etc
Haha
What grade to do think I would get in my first semester ?
Bart if I attended one of your courses ?
Grad course, freshman course ?
Which would I fall under ?
You would probably be among my undergraduates, who, I might add, are a real pleasure to teach….
Hi Bart
Thanks for this post; its very interesting for me as I am a undergrad in London doing Divinity hoping to go on to do a phd; you stated: Graduates with a PhD (after a long time: in religious studies, it typically takes about eight years *after* the bachelor’s degree!). Can you please elaborate on this as to why it takes 8 years to get the phd after the BD? From reseach I have done I have thought its 3-5 years max to gain the phd. Please explain. thanks Sam
In the U.K. it’s different. In the USA, a PhD student needs to take two years of seminars, and then PhD exams, before writing a dissertation. In the U.K. all they do is the dissertation.
OK lucky for me then I guess!
Thanks Bart, all the insight into academia and your world is very interesting and helpful to me as an undergrad! Keep up these posts please!
cheers
Sam
Surely after all that work to get there you are ready to retire.
Actually it seems you would have to love what you do to endure through all the evaluative steps in the process.
I look forward to the next post. Eight years is a long time from college graduation to a doctorate. The process is very similar in medical fields except many more articles need to be published, rather than a book, and one needs to have a history of obtaining federal grants.