When my book Love They Stranger came out a few months ago, I was honored to be interviewed for a Swedish podcast about my major theses and how I support them. It was one episode in a multi-part series, and has now just recently been aired.
I thought it was a particularly interesting back and forth, and the producers have given us permission to share it here on the blog. I hope you enjoy it! (My host begins by welcoming his audience in Swedish — but have no fear! He has very fine English and breaks into it at about the 1.30 mark.)
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Dr Ehrman,
WOW what a great discussion you have made here. And also thanks to the wonderful interviewer.
Dear Dr Ehrman-Forgive this slight diversion, may I ask for a clarification of your views regarding the manner in which the crucifixion is presented in the Second Treatise of the Great Seth and the Gnostic Apocalypse of Peter? Specifically, would it be accurate to say that you hold that these texts present the notion of a spiritual divine entity inhabiting the body of the man Jesus, only to leave him to suffer on the Cross? Any clarification or insight would be very welcome.
Yes, that’s right. It’s a view that I ahve always called “separationist,” that Jesus the man is a separate being from the divine Christ who comes into him at some point (e.g., baptism) for his ministry but then separates/leaves him jsut before or at his crucifixion. Both are amazing texts!
Dear Dr Ehrman-Would this also extend to groups such as the Valentinians? In essence, can it be said that the Valentinian proclaimed a separation between the divine Christ, who is incapable of suffering, and the man Jesus, who suffered on the Cross?
Yup.
Dr Ehrman, I sent you an email on August 9 requesting your permission to quote a phrase from this podcast. I know you get tons of emails, but hoping you see it.
You can always quote what someone says (though probalby not reproduce an entire speech) as long as you acknowledge the source (and make sure the quote is accurate and not taken out of context!)
Thank you, Dr. Ehrman, for the reply and approval to use the quote. It will be used accurately, cited, and will be used in the context in which you gave it.