In my previous post I began to explain the problems with the idea that Jesus’ followers, like all good students of Rabbis in the Jewish tradition, were trained to memorize what he said and did, so that the Gospels provide us with reliable accounts of his life. This idea was most forcefully promoted by Swedish scholar Birger Gerhardsson and was popular for a while in scholarly circles. But it is widely seen today as problematic. Here is how I continue to explain some of the issues in my book Jesus Before the Gospels (HarperOne, 2016).
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An even bigger problem is that we have clear and certain evidence that Jesus’ followers were not passing along his teachings, or accounts of his deeds, as they were memorized verbatim. This is one of the complaints that other scholars generally lodge against Gerhardsson – he does not engage in a detailed examination of traditions that are preserved in the Gospels in order to see if his theory works. What is the evidence that Jesus’ teachings were preserved word-for-word the same? On the contrary, the striking differences in the words and deeds of Jesus as reported in the Gospels is compelling evidence precisely that they were not memorized and passed along without significant change.
I first realized this myself many years ago when I was a graduate student at Princeton Theological Seminary. One semester, Gerhardsson’s teacher, Harald Riesenfeld, was in town giving a lecture. In his talk he argued a position that was in line with the views of his more famous student (he actually had originally given the idea to Gerhardsson): Jesus’ words and deeds were passed along as they had been committed to memory. The morning after his lecture I had breakfast with Riesenfeld, and I told him that I was puzzled by something. The accounts of the words and deeds of Jesus in the New Testament are at odds with each other in numerous places. How could they have been memorized?
I gave him an example. In Mark’s Gospel, a man named Jairus comes up to Jesus and tells him that his daughter is very sick. He would like Jesus to come and heal her. They head to Jairus’s house, but they are unexpectedly delayed. Before they arrive, she dies. Members of Jairus’s household come and inform him that there is now no longer any reason for Jesus to come. Jesus tells Jairus not to fear. They continue on to the house, and Jesus proceeds to raise the girl from the dead (Mark 5:21-43). It is a terrific story, very moving and powerful.
The same story is found in the Gospel of Matthew, but with a striking difference. In Matthew’s version Jairus comes up to Jesus and informs him that his daughter has already died. He would like Jesus to come raise her from the dead (Matthew 9:18-26).
And so I asked Riesenfeld: how can Matthew’s version be right if Mark’s is right? Either the girl was already dead when her father came to Jesus, or not. Riesenfeld’s response was stunning and has stayed with me till today. Since he was convinced that the stories about Jesus were memorized by his followers, he believed Matthew and Mark were describing two different occasions on which Jesus talked with Jairus and brought his daughter back to life. The first time Jairus came to Jesus before the girl had died. The next time it happened, she had died already. Jesus raised her from the dead twice.
I realized then and there that this theory of disciples remembering precisely the words and deeds of Jesus simply didn’t make sense to me.
The final problem with Gerhardsson’s view is that it does not take seriously the realities of how traditions of Jesus were being circulated in the early church. The authors of the Gospels were not writing what they had memorized sitting at Jesus’ feet. As we will see in chapter 3, the disciples of Jesus did not actually write the Gospels. The disciples were lower class, illiterate peasants who spoke Aramaic, Jesus’ own language. The Gospels, on the other hand, were written by highly educated Greek speaking Christians 40-65 years later. The stories had been in circulation for decades, not simply among disciples who allegedly memorized Jesus’ words and deeds, but among all sorts of people, most of whom had never laid eyes on an eyewitness or even on anyone else who had. And so, just as there is no evidence that Jesus’ followers memorized his teachings, the idea that everyone throughout Christendom telling stories about Jesus had memorized them is beyond belief. This model for understanding where the Gospel traditions came from simply doesn’t appear to work.
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Riesenfeld’s rationalization of the Jairus story is indeed stunning, if not outright shocking. It demonstrates just how far one can go to believe what they want to believe.
I came out of a Church of Christ group that held to strict belief in the Bible’s inerrancy since Jesus had promised to send a “helper” to the apostles, thus the writings are all God’s words. For them there are no contradictions, there are only our misunderstandings. A common explanation for them is that the writers simply had different viewpoints, even though such an explanation directly contradicts the belief in a helper. Again illustrating the length to which they will go to believe in the face of evidence to the contrary.
I did too, from a fundamentalist American Taiwanese cult.
Church is mistaken: Old Testament according to St Paul was “divinely inspired”; as his letters [which only he could confirm, as his.
Anyways the canon was chosen in Rome not Jerusalem from Jesus’ direct disciples ancestors.
I have a question comparing the Dead Sea scrolls translation to OT considering over 2 thousand years https://www.quora.com/Do-the-Dead-Sea-Scrolls-contradict-the-Bible-and-if-so-in-what-ways?q=dead%20sea%20scrolls%20 [not my question]
Another confounding factor is that “god-breathed” in 2 Timothy likely didn’t mean “inspired” when the text was written.
neither means that God-wrote the text.
I always took it as God was the editor.
But this is for the OT, but thanks be to the discovery of the dead sea scrolls for verification of tanslation https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-differences-between-The-Dead-Sea-Scrolls-and-the-current-Old-Testament
Someone might argue that the Holy Spirit introduced differences in the stories precisely because He was emphasizing the big picture and didn’t want the disciples to get hung up on details. Didn’t Origen say something like that?
Not quite; it wasn’t that he didn’t want people to get hung up on details so much as that various details emphasize various divinely inspired ideas….
Dear Professor, I’m working on AI-related projects involving the authorship of Paul’s letter. Can you please recommend me a good easy-to-read book on how these conclusions are made and on the information on the consensus? Books that are similar to your book “Intro to NT, OUP” would be great.
My book Forged deals with the issues. The problem is that the easy-to-read books don’t give the important and detailed evidence, for which you could turn to my book Forgery and Counterforgery.
I own a copy of Forgery and Counterforgery. I think most of it is approachable by people lacking in depth study on the subject matter. The extensive detail was just what I needed at the time while questioning my faith. The references to interpreting ancient languages was where I got lost, which is a small part of the book’s content. Bart is *very * thorough in providing detail to support his assertions!
A better answer would be when a follower entered the time line. Someone was evidently there from from the start and another came in at the end. My thought is why would Jesus need to preform miracles at all when the word of god is the only sword a god would need.
One more problem: If Jesus and his disciples and early followers were all apocalypticists who thought the present world was about to end any day now, they would have had no motivation to memorize and remember stories and teachings of Jesus for posterity. It would have been later, when the end did not arrive (yet), that they would have thought: Hey, maybe we ought to be more conscientious about remembering and recording what we remember. And by then, quite a few years would have passed.
Professor Ehrman,
I have read with pleasure many of the books you have written, and have watched many of the lectures you recorded. I recognize you are an expert in the the history of how Christianity evolved during the first 500 years of the CE. I am an “interested bystander” who would like to respectfully offer three suggestions when you have occasion to re-write any of your books that describe the life and death of Jesus:
1) Seriously consider the possibility that some interested literate persons — such as the Pharisees who were paying close attention to him because they probably felt he was preaching false beliefs — where writing detailed reports and sending them back to superiors in Jerusalem, or the literate followers wrote some things down that were copied and recopied and later became the source later known as “Q;
2) Add more details about crucifixion, including the practice of using ropes instead of spikes when arrangements had been made to allow the removal of the body for burial, as the Bible suggests happened; 3) Consider the likelihood that the Jewish political/religious leaders bribed Pilate to gain a degree of limited self-rule and favors.
William Steigelmann
Thanks. If Pharisees did write reports, we have no record of it. But Pharisees were not answerable to the authorities in Jerusalem; they in fact opposed them. 2. Unfortunately we don’t have records of ropes vs. nails. We DO know nails were used because a number of them have survived. 3. Romans allowed self-rule as a rule throughout the provinces, with limits connected with their (Roman) ultimate authority,
Bart, what is your view on Matthew 5:17? i.e., is it something that Jesus really might have said, or something that was invented by either the author of Matthew’s Gospel or one of the oral storytellers?
I don’t think it went back to Jesus. I think the verse came about as a reaction to Christians who were saying that following the law was not important; someone came up with the idea that Jesus said it really really was important.
In Jesus’ own life/ministry, there would have been little reason for him to say such a thing, since it was widely assumed among Jews in his context. It only became an issue after his death and gentiles started getting involved in the church. disabledupes{2471e41209d01911224018fcf826659d}disabledupes